Dismayed by deception


Published on Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:29 PM AKST

I am a senior at Colony High School in Palmer.

This last Friday we were told to take out a piece of paper and write down a statement verbatim. The statement was basically to the effect that finals were this week and that we get out of school the 20th of December. We were then told to sign the paper, and once they were all collected we were told they were going to be used as writing samples to compare with recent bomb threats and graffiti.

The statements were collected without our knowledge or consent as to why we even had to write it. As you can imagine, this made me very upset for several reasons. First, we were not given a reason as to why we were writing it. Second, nobody was notified, not even our parents. Third, they had no right to collect samples from the whole school without probable cause. It is not very probable that the entire school was involved in the bomb threats or the graffiti.

Also, I’m not saying that it’s impossible, but common sense would tell someone not to write a bomb threat in their own handwriting. What if mine happens to match merely because the person who really wrote it was trying to disguise his or her own writing?

My step-dad went to my school and wasn’t given much help. The assistant principal, Mr. [Mike] Looney, then called my mother and was absolutely terrible to her. My step-dad also called the Alaska State Troopers and we found out that in Alaska you don’t have to contact parents before collecting any evidence from a minor. What kind of law allows policemen to take advantage of minors like that? Most young people are not aware of their rights as U.S. citizens and will talk willingly to officials because they think they have to.

That fact aside, it is still ridiculous they would collect evidence wrongly and expect to be able to use it. Even if they find a match, the person accused can fight the fact that the evidence was collected in a sneaky and unfair way. Coming from California, I was awed that the school is trying to get away with this. Did they really think upwards of 1,200 students were going to play dumb and allow their rights to be abused? Are they so desperate that they would abuse the rights of not only minors, but citizens of the United States?

I would like to think I am a citizen of a fair country and the resident of a state interested in my rights, not just bent on getting evidence in any way possible.

There has to have been a better way of going about this. The minute they collected evidence from me, I was seen as a suspect. They had no right or knowledge to deduce that I was a suspect simply because I go to school.

It disgusts me that people we are supposed to trust as school officials and the law would willingly take advantage of people like this.

I take this matter very seriously and I would appreciate it if you would too.

Erika Gray

Wasilla

Comments

49 comment(s)

    Thank you Reality Check wrote on Jan 1, 2008 4:11 PM:

    " At least someone thinks with their brain......don't you think that someone as opinonated as erika would be the least bit angry at the person who THREATENED HER LIFE!!!! lol my god when are people gonna start looking at reality and not some dumb politic crap....would you rather have your rights violated or would rather die.... btw I still think that whoever the person was who did the bomb threat was the REAL person who took away rights! "

    Use one name wrote on Dec 31, 2007 9:48 PM:

    " I think God Bless American, and Indeed are the same person. Use one name. "

    Happy (free) New Year wrote on Dec 31, 2007 9:47 PM:

    " Children in schools also have a constitutional right to feel safe, and if that conflicts with another person rights, guess who the court is going to side with? Happy (free) New Year!
    "

    Happy (free) New Year #1 wrote on Dec 31, 2007 9:46 PM:

    " God Bless America, did I strike a cord with you? Good! Now that you know the constitution word for word, go learn case law. That is law where the courts have interpreted how the constitution is applied, and have set precedence, such as in the Bong Hits for Jesus case, or Roe v. Wade. Oh yeah, and while you are at it remember this, the judges that decide these cases are put into office by the people, and for the people. "

    Libertarian wrote on Dec 31, 2007 7:48 PM:

    " 'Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.' - Richard Jackson (generally -and wrongly- attributed to Benjamin Franklin). Seems pretty appropriate, doesn't it? "

    Speechless wrote on Dec 31, 2007 2:24 PM:

    " All of this anger is clearly directed at the wrong person here! Miss Gray is entitled to her opinion and feelings. The real party in the wrong is the 14 year old boy that wanted attention so badly that he felt the need to get it by threatening your child, my child, and everyone else in that building. Whether it was carried out or not, this kid KNEW BETTER! I am happy that the Principals and AST have caught the letter writer! Now make sure he doesn't do it again! "

    to Erika wrote on Dec 31, 2007 2:20 PM:

    " Nice Job! She has more sense than most of these frightened sunshine patriots. What's next mind probes because someone feels someone else may hurt them? I'll save you the time and expense. ~stupid, stupid people~ If you want to give away your rights, go for it, just stay away from mine amd my family. "

    Silly people.. wrote on Dec 31, 2007 1:51 PM:

    " trading your rights to feel safe. How many bathroom wall threats have ever happened? When did a murderer tip off his crime on a bathroom wall?...come on...name one. Fear will bring down this country and take away our rights, one by one.
    If someone shoots someone else with a gun...do we search everyone who owns a gun too?
    I'm not surprized that so many people don't understand the rights that our forefathers fought so hard for. They'd turn over in their graves if they knew we dealt them away due to a fear of what might happen "if". "

    Terrorism is defined as: wrote on Dec 31, 2007 1:51 PM:

    " “The systematic use of violence as a means to intimidate or coerce societies or governments.” Those of you who believe that the school or troopers acted appropriately are examples of why terrorism works. You are willing to change the rules to “protect us”. No American citizen should be asked to produce evidence that could incriminate themselves without being made aware of that fact. This includes children. It doesn’t matter what the stakes are. As soon as you are willing to let go of a single right, no matter how small, no matter the reason, the remaining will fall like dominoes. "

    Indeed wrote on Dec 31, 2007 1:37 PM:

    " Yes, Erika, get with the program. You should be glad that you live in a society where you have rights only so long as those in power agree that you do. After all, it's all for your own protection...real freedom being such a messy thing. "

    Wild Child wrote on Dec 31, 2007 11:38 AM:

    " I support the school and police departments efforts to obtain whatever information is necessary to find the person who was responsible for the bomb threats. Too many events have occurred in our schools where tragedy has been the end result. In addition to the other factors in this case, hand writing analysis is an effective way to determine who is responsible because their are so many "suspects". What do you have to complain about? Be grateful for what is being done to avoid another senseless tragedy. Be grateful that police are trying to protect you and save your life! "

    God Bless America Indeed wrote on Dec 31, 2007 9:24 AM:

    " We are lucky enough to live in a supposedly free society with constitutionally protected rights. Isn't it funny that "Happy (free) New Year" seems to assume that people who are arguing that our rights should actually be protected are ignorant of what those rights are? Don't even know what the bill of rights are? Where does THAT come from? Erika clearly knows her rights. The posters here clearly know their rights. As for me, I was made to learn the constitution word for word, and can still write it out perfectly after all these years. "

    Happy (free) New Year wrote on Dec 31, 2007 7:24 AM:

    " The people on here screaming the loudest about their constitutional rights being violated probably can’t even tell you what the Bill of Rights are. Or which amendment is what, or what case law is. They think the big evil empire is going to come and take them away. What they fall to realize is that the country they live in allows them to post their right to free speech without fear of reprisal. In most other countries you would be hanged, or imprisoned for what you have said. Good bless America! "

    RIGHT ON!! wrote on Dec 30, 2007 9:37 PM:

    " If the AST and the school officials are so lazy they cant go about finding evidence any other way other then LYING to the students to MAYBE find a handwriting match, then maybe our taxdollars arent being put to good use. Whatever happened to good detective work? instead of being sneaky and teaching our children to lie and deceive, maybe they could TRY a little harder to find the truth in a not so invasive way. "

    Reality Check wrote on Dec 30, 2007 6:25 PM:

    " Maybe if our children were not taught to be self-centered and disrespectful of authority we would not have students scrawling bomb threats on bathroom walls and shooting up schools because they have some warped sense of what the world owes them. What the school did was NOT illegal. Those screaming about their rights would be the first in line with a lawsuit if their child were injured or worse, blaming the same people they are criticizing now for not protecting their child. Where is the anger from Erika at a fellow student who THREATENED HER LIFE? "

    Absolutely Right Erika wrote on Dec 30, 2007 11:47 AM:

    " AST violated your rights and then lied to your Stepdad they do need consent to conduct a search and seize evidence which is what those writing samples were evidence. I think the parents of these students should sue the state in Federal Court for violation of Constitutional Rights of the students of Colony High School. Oh and kids if this type of thing happens again you call your parents first...then write with your other/weak hand! >=) "

    Thank you..... wrote on Dec 28, 2007 9:22 AM:

    " A simple thank you to AST and Colony for protecting our kids. "

    But the point is... wrote on Dec 27, 2007 2:01 PM:

    " That in this country, we actually have constitutionally protected rights (for a little longer at least) to be free of illegal search and seizure. Was the search illegal is the first question. Should it be is the second. How has the desire to protect the constitution become cause to tell people they should leave Alaska? I thought we were more about freedom than anyone. Legal search or not, this girl has a right to speak out about it. Speaking out and asking questions of authority isn't unpatriotic...its probably the most patriotic thing you can do. "

    Doomed to repeat... wrote on Dec 27, 2007 1:44 PM:

    " To those of you still defending the actions of Colony High School and the Alaska State Troopers: PICK UP A DANG HISTORY BOOK! I strongly suggest books about Europe in the 1940's. - "It's for you own protection..." - Those words have been spoken too many times before. Let's not use them in America. "

    Unknown wrote on Dec 26, 2007 11:13 PM:

    " America That's beyond the point. The point is that people actually care enough to even try to catch the person who did it. And how are they going to catch the person anyway. What are they going to predict who did it. The point also is that ANYONE could have done it. They can't single out any group of people and a way of doing that is to have everyone do the same thing. It makes sense. "

    Bottom Line wrote on Dec 26, 2007 10:45 PM:

    " Maybe we are looking at this wrong. Maybe AST, teachers and educators should have told the students what they were doing. Then anyone not willing to provide a sample could be guilty and we could have cut their hands off. Sure safty is a top priority but using deception is only teaching young minds that by any means necessary is the way to go. Also I do have kids and the question I have is how many parents were told what was happening? "

    To to too bad wrote on Dec 26, 2007 3:39 PM:

    " You make me smile. I love America the way it is, Thanks. Isn't free speech a great thing? Erika is free to speak her mind, I'm free, you're free. Good job to CHS, and the AST for a job done right. "

    to too bad... wrote on Dec 26, 2007 2:47 PM:

    " I was born here and I don't have to move. What are you going to do about it, send in the black boots and put me in a concentration camp or stalag?I don't need your kind of "protection", I'd rather die on my feet fighting for our liberty than worry about something someone scribbled on a bathroom wall. For crying out loud!What a bunch of cowards America is becoming, the slow creep of fascism is here for sure.
    Way to go Erika! At least you're not like some of these sheep. "

    Too bad wrote on Dec 26, 2007 11:35 AM:

    " Would you have felt better if this person actually went on their rampage, and shot your best friend? If you can't handle it, move to another State. It's for you own protection anyway. "

    America wrote on Dec 25, 2007 5:09 PM:

    " We are proud to live in a country that respects our constitutional rights. You are saying because someone is afraid that something MIGHT happen that everyone is a instant suspect and should be forced to submit evidence samples of some sort.(be it Writing, DNA or urine) Because some idiot wrote on the restroom wall (a hollow threat at that) 1200 students were instantly suspects and they had to prove their innocence? Is that all anyone has to do to take away our rights, is scare some folks? If so America is doomed as a free society. "

    Unknown wrote on Dec 25, 2007 4:35 PM:

    " You should all be proud to live in America. You could all live somewhere where someone could rape your daughter, wife, or sister and the person raped would be charged with some really stupid charge. Be happy... gosh I can't believe you guys complain so much. All I can say is that be thankful your not crying over the death of your friend fellow student or teacher! I highly DOUBT that a judge would rule in favor of a policeman that was trying to catch the REAL problem, the person who wrote the bomb threat. "

    Anonymous wrote on Dec 25, 2007 3:03 PM:

    " Our government is trampling our rights as individuals. This means that the soldiers who have died at war, have all died in vain (for no reason, without cause). Is that appropriate? "

    to CLB wrote on Dec 24, 2007 3:34 PM:

    " fact of the matter is the only ones who care about the writing samples are the ones who most likely have something to hide so put your pipe down and quit being so damn critical. "

    Please CLB wrote on Dec 24, 2007 1:48 PM:

    " Proof-read your posts prior to submission. The points you are trying to make are dampened by the misspellings and incorrect punctuation. "

    To complete igornance wrote on Dec 24, 2007 12:28 PM:

    " Yeah right! Like the authorities will just not care due to whinning. There were other ways collect samples of writing with out using deception or dishonesty. And to CLB you are a loon! Maybe we all should give a DNA, Blood and hair sample as well as report once a week to the cops what we are doing. People wake up. It is about the rights and the constitution, all of which we are at war for and have fought for for years. Don't let them get trampled. Hold the authorities and Educators responsible and demand an explanation "

    mark wrote on Dec 24, 2007 11:56 AM:

    " So if you didn't do it then why are you complaining? They took your writing sample to rule you OUT as a suspect! I applaud the school district and state troopers for taking action on this and trying anything possible to find the culprit and punish them accordingly! "

    complete ignorance wrote on Dec 24, 2007 8:34 AM:

    " Maybe now that all you have voiced your opinions the next time this happens the athorities will just blow it off because of all the whining. Then when one of you gets a call that one of your children or freinds was killed at school you'll realize the importance of evidence collection wether you believe it to be legal or not. "

    thank you Erika wrote on Dec 24, 2007 12:18 AM:

    " for writing this letter. Nothing will ever come of it other than reminding a few people that our rights and liberties are forever under threat. Unfortunately, it seems that you are preaching to the choir here. People like Pio Cottini, who wrote to attack your letter and commend the school in its illegal acts, need to rethink things. A child of an immigrant would, you would think, be a little more appreciative of the liberty of this great nation. "

    Yukon Woman wrote on Dec 23, 2007 4:27 PM:

    " Awesome letter Erika! "

    Actually... wrote on Dec 23, 2007 2:40 PM:

    " What the school did was illegal in every case where the students were 18 and over. The US Supreme Court has already ruled on cases just like this. And where exactly do some of you get off telling this girl that if she doesn't want her constitutional rights violated she should go back to California? And CLB, are you just a complete loon? "

    To Erika Gray wrote on Dec 23, 2007 2:39 PM:

    " Good work. You feel like you have been slighted by the educators and authorities you trust and are speaking out about it. Good for you. God Bless America! "

    CLB wrote on Dec 23, 2007 12:59 PM:

    " Self-centered Thank you for your common sense, keep it up, the world needs more thinkers such as your self!!!! "

    CLB wrote on Dec 23, 2007 12:56 PM:

    " Erika Would you have submitted to the sample if you had known what it was for? It is obvious you are not complaining about the bomb threat. How about getting priorities streight here? Right or wrong they were all so trying to save your life!!!!! "

    CLB wrote on Dec 23, 2007 12:52 PM:

    " ak_damned Don't always think authority is a bad thing--The almighty power that keeps this world going should be your good behavior. aka your good and clean behavior in all you strive to do in your every day life. After all the buck stops with each and every one of us. "

    CLB wrote on Dec 23, 2007 12:47 PM:

    " Agree, did you fail or were you constantly reprimanded because of bad behavior or for drug use? Are you failing at life right now? Please don't blame others and get a grip! You and others like you need help so you can get straight. Find a person who can give you a decent path to follow, if you or your parents arn't able to do it alone. Please, for your sake? "

    CLB wrote on Dec 23, 2007 12:38 PM:

    " I can sure tell most of the comments came from immature person's. A clean conscience would go a long way to stop the squarming and bomb threats etc. If the students had known the real reason they probably screamed bloody murder any way, if not about this then something else. Parents, what is wrong with you? Teach right from wrong and help find the guilty person(s)by explaining to your children some times the truth is hard too come by. By the way I guess I am one of the self rightous ones! Students you helped save lives!! "

    Agree wrote on Dec 23, 2007 11:00 AM:

    " Yeah they are trampling your rights. And in fact it the district could get sued by any of the 1200 parents. They may not win but it would surely cost the district a tremendous amount of money to fight just a small fraction of those cases. For educators those at Colony High are not very smart.Take it to the street Erika and stand up for your rights. To take something you have already turned in is one thing but to request you supply a sample through deception is unlawful. Fight it. "

    WOW something is fishy here.. wrote on Dec 23, 2007 6:34 AM:

    " I applaud your sharing and would suggest respectfully, that you don't, "get used to it". Be a person of change I am proud of you..Happy Holidays. "

    Susitna Slim wrote on Dec 21, 2007 3:44 PM:

    " Welcome to the real world, there are going to be a lot of things you're not going to agree with or like as you approach adult-hood, get used to it. I do think a letter to the school superintendent regarding Mr. Looney's demeanor is in order. "

    ak_damned wrote on Dec 21, 2007 3:14 PM:

    " Oh yes, the "unless you have something to hide" statement of the righteous. I bet the British soldiers used the same phrase often when searching for rebels during our revolution. The fact is we have rules and limits placed on law enforcement to prevent the abuse of power. These limits may hinder investigations, even allow the guilty to go free. They do however allow us to have a society where free speech is possible. Where freedom of religion is possible. It prevents us from living in a country run by a Saddam, Putins or Ossama. "

    To Erika wrote on Dec 21, 2007 1:10 PM:

    " You have every right to be upset. Your rights are being taken away at a rapid rate from the Persident all the way down to you high school. Look up the term "fascist" and understand how people of this mindset use fear to control people and take away your liberties. "

    self-centered wrote on Dec 21, 2007 12:05 PM:

    " With the collection of these hand-writing samples, it would eliminate you as a suspect, not make you one. Unless of course you had something to hide. The whole point of that exercise was to catch the person who was threatening to put a BOMB in a school. Sure 99% of these threats are a hoax, but all in takes is one, with a couple of dead kids for everyone to scream at law enforcement for not doing everything they could to stop the bomber. "

    Don't you know? wrote on Dec 21, 2007 11:24 AM:

    " "What kind of law allows policemen to take advantage of minors like that?" With their abortion ruling, the Alaska Supreme Court has basically eliminated the concept of "minor". Welcome to the adult world. "

    ak_damned wrote on Dec 21, 2007 10:23 AM:

    " This is why people we should always question authority and what's being asked of us. What's next, shall we all submit DNA samples? The next rape victim in the Alaska will surely be raped by an Alaskan, therefore we are all suspects. We'll done troopers. I hope when you finally catch the juvenile delinquent it gets dismissed by a competent judge. "

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