Gun rights on the outs


Published on Monday, December 1, 2008 8:31 PM AKST

Had to laugh when I read the “Oval Office” column by Howard Delo, wherein he expounds on the “common sense restrictions” soon to be imposed by our new Fuhrer.

I reckon “common sense” depends on your definition of “common sense.”

I seem to recall that back in the 1700s, the British Crown thought certain acts were common sense and proper. Those “intolerable acts” led to armed revolt against the existing government, the British Crown.

As for the rush to buy guns (nationwide), you are wasting your money. The first thing our new Fuhrer will do is require national registration of all private firearms. You will be required to carry a card for each firearm you own. Get caught without your registration card, you go to jail and your gun is forfeit.

The second act will be to confiscate all handguns and all semi-automatic weapons — rifles, shotguns and, yes, this includes your pet Ruger 10/22.

The third act will be to tax (100 percent) all remaining guns and all ammunition.

The fourth act will outlaw gun shows.

And the fifth act will be to increase the Federal Firearms License fees by 500 percent.

The only reasons for registration are taxation and confiscation. Don’t think it will happen? Wait and see. Mark my words.

R.K. Butts

Wasilla

 

Comments

72 comment(s)

    james wrote on Dec 14, 2008 4:33 PM:

    " just recently obama commented. "you dont have to go out and buy alot guns just because im becoming the president. he also said he believes in common sense gun laws whatever that is scares me. "

    John M2 wrote on Dec 14, 2008 8:02 AM:

    " Hey John M they were sucessful in Germany and they all said it wouldn't happen. Stop drinking the KOOL-AID
    it isn't a democrat or republican issue stupid it's just like the song said back in the 60's "everybody wants to rule the world" and don't forget it...power is a headie drink. "

    james wrote on Dec 11, 2008 3:50 PM:

    " wont work , to many will shoot first , ask qestions latter "

    Oops wrote on Dec 11, 2008 6:11 AM:

    " S.S.S. enough said. "

    to Brian wrote on Dec 10, 2008 4:24 AM:

    " Just run right down to your local church you can get a gun there "

    To Brian wrote on Dec 9, 2008 6:40 PM:

    " Good point. Thank you. "

    brian wrote on Dec 9, 2008 3:06 PM:

    " there seems to be some confusion about the 2nd ammendment. the 2nd ammendment does not give you the right to bear arms, that is a God given right, the 2nd ammendment just states that that right shall not be infringed. the other thing the 2nd ammendment does is to ensure that our government sticks to the bill of rights.

    "He who hammers his guns into plows, plows for he that don't" "

    james wrote on Dec 9, 2008 2:26 PM:

    " i dont know if any one remembers it. but years ago the mayor of dc shot an intruder with a handgun. at that time they were illegal
    <when guns are outlawed
    only outlaws will have guns "

    james wrote on Dec 9, 2008 2:19 PM:

    " today obama made the statement not to freak out and go buy a bunch of guns before his inugaration.
    personally i got all the ammo i could stuff in my house. its whole lot easier to have it handy than it is to worry if its gonna be available "

    Ben C wrote on Dec 9, 2008 7:23 AM:

    " Hard for me to come to a conclusion about how I feel regarding registering my firearms. I'm all for thorough background checks, but the notion of the government having a list of what I own so when the day comes they can show up at the door with thier list and say "these are what you have, now please hand them over" is somewhat frightening. And anybody in here stating 'this is a non-issue' and 'there's no proof' has thier head stuck in the sand. "

    To Spankles wrote on Dec 8, 2008 9:32 PM:

    " You are too funny. I'm on to you. "

    Confused wrote on Dec 8, 2008 7:42 PM:

    " John -
    Assuming you're local you live in a community where the population is 1's or 2's per sq. mile but many live where there are hundreds per sq. mile.
    As Calo stated previously. "Our constitution guarantees our government is of the people, by the people and for the people." not of the person, by the person and for the person. We sometimes have to look out for the public good.
    I do appreciate the civility of our disscussion it CAN be done without resorting to the name calling and ranting seen here frequently "

    Confused wrote on Dec 8, 2008 7:37 PM:

    " John -
    Not for anyone giving up privacy or rights. I don't think this is a privacy issue. We register and license all sorts of property from automobiles to getting prescriptions filled at the pharmacy. We do this for the "public good". Do you think that obtaining narcotics should be legal behind closed doors, because an unregistered gun sold to the WRONG person is just as dangerous as selling heroin or meth. Most people are law abiding citizens but we are now a country of over 300 million. Cont "

    Concerned resident wrote on Dec 8, 2008 12:10 PM:

    " This is a non-issue and utter rubibsh. Where is the proof or even a reasonable indication to substantiate these kinds of scare tactics? No where! This is a total, dumb, lie and anyone who would believe it is a dumber blockhead than the guy who wrote this junk. Have a nice day! And get a life! "

    Native wrote on Dec 8, 2008 11:27 AM:

    " how it was done;

    first, white man sends in alcohol and guns and alcohol as trade for furs etc.
    gets natives hooked on alcohol, and tobacco.
    liquored up indians used guns on one another, then white man assumes rights to govern indians to "protect them from themselves"and removes guns and liquor.
    once they have crippled and destroyed the natives social structure, they steal their land right out from under their noses. then as a horrible gesture, give them back their liquor.
    this has been a common practice for 300+ years.
    it will happen with our guns too! "

    John wrote on Dec 8, 2008 10:00 AM:

    " To confused, most Americans do not like to give up our privacy to gun ownership as well. Protecting my rights is not advertising if I do or do not own weapons to the authorities or you. I am not projecting about the turning in of ammo and not allowing reloading, that too is expected and will happen, sounds as if you are all for just rolling over and giving up our rights! "

    Confused wrote on Dec 8, 2008 7:15 AM:

    " John -

    Does that mean that if one of your guns and ammo is stolen you don't report to the police.

    I would think that all your guns should be registered even the old ones. For YOUR protection in case of theft.

    If the gun and ammo were properly registered it would give the police more info to solve the crime commited if solved return of your property after prosecution.

    Seems to me that would be the proper thing to do to protect your rights.

    Again your projecting about turning in ammo "

    To James wrote on Dec 8, 2008 6:39 AM:

    " So , do you think they've stopped and will now leave us alone? Does this mean they'll never bother any of our gun rights again. No more Brady bills and Clinton bans? Whew, now I can sleep at night. Did some sort of light bulb turn on in their heads? Wake up! They're not going to change. "

    james wrote on Dec 8, 2008 1:27 AM:

    " no joke
    i read that that mess in new orleans was corrected after the fact. guns returned. policies made so it would not reoccur "

    james wrote on Dec 7, 2008 6:44 PM:

    " the amuntion accountablity act was stopped in arizona "

    John Harkey wrote on Dec 7, 2008 6:24 PM:

    " TO confused: Lets think of how deadly crimes are committed, a gun is usually stolen with ammo. The ammo will now be traced to you the owner, wow what a problematic situation we have here. Of course they will allow for no reloading and demand confiscation of old ammo. Ammo you purchase will identify any old or unregistered guns you may own. In reality how many killers buy their ammo and guns legally, I see a huge mess would be the result of any such act that would surely disrupt the normal gun-owners rights. "

    confused wrote on Dec 7, 2008 5:27 PM:

    " John -

    Please explain to me how a law abiding citizen is hampered by the "Ammunition Accountability Act"

    Seem to me to be "aiming " at the criminal.

    This is a single issue - not every law is a stepping stone to erode your rights. "

    calo wrote on Dec 7, 2008 12:24 PM:

    " The US Supreme Ct recently affirmed that under the 2nd Amendment, citizens (US) have the right to own firearms. Never let down your guard because the battle continues nationwide to regulate citizens out of that constitutional right to bear arms. Support the NRA, our most powerful gun rights advocate and lobbiest. Our constitution guarantees our government is of the people, by the people and for the people. Write numerous letters to your State and federal congressmen and women that you will only continue to vote for them if they continue to vote against gun restrictions. "

    John Harkey wrote on Dec 7, 2008 11:46 AM:

    " Have you heard of the Ammunition Accountability Act? If not google and and see how our rights to purchase ammo may soon be hampered and traced.
    17 states are proposing to pass the act the first of 2009 they include states such as Missouri and Tennessee, unusual places to see gun/ammo rights imposed. Serious invasion of our rights could follow. "

    lisnup wrote on Dec 6, 2008 4:45 PM:

    " If our stupid gov had blinked!!!! Maybe the Republicans ticket would have stood a chance. Blame it on dear Palin for your hysteria. "

    To Reader wrote on Dec 6, 2008 7:46 AM:

    " My apologies. Check the Seattle P-I regarding the silly laws they're trying to pass in Washington. Any of the California papers should provide you insight with all the ridiculous laws they're tryiing to pass in California. As far as the other publications, they're various media that's printed for gun dealers and i"ve never tried looking them up on the net, so be my guest. My last source is right here...both yahoo news page and MSN news page. I don't bother with the NRA publications because they're (obviously) slanted..but I'm sure if you wanted to they'd be in there, too. "

    no joke wrote on Dec 6, 2008 7:35 AM:

    " To all of you that think the goverment cant take away our guns (like mayor Nagen did after Katrina) dont hide behind us that choose to keep ours. "

    Reader wrote on Dec 5, 2008 9:20 PM:

    " Ben C - you said

    "since I read the national news, I can state for a fact"

    Calm down - you don't have to get testy

    it was simple question - your stating facts and I would like to know what national papers you read so I can check them out myself - never take anything just on face value "

    Ben C wrote on Dec 5, 2008 8:08 PM:

    " California recently passed a law requiring all spent casings to have micro-stamps on them to identify the gun they were fired from. Stupid, since one could easily police their shells and leave empty ones they collected at a range, therefore making casings inadmissable as evidence. The agenda behind it was to make it to expensive for the manufacturers to keep selling guns in California. They are now working to pass laws regarding ammo capacity, barrel length and such that would render over 80% of handguns illegal to sell in California. Many congressional Dems look to California as a national model. "

    to Reader wrote on Dec 5, 2008 8:04 PM:

    " What papers do I read? Is this a quiz? I read local papers from Alaska, The Seattle P-I and am updated on a regular basis regarding different gun laws as they change in the states due to my holding an FFL license? Do YOU hold an FFL license? Do YOU stay current of different state firearm laws in the interests of being an informed firearm salesman? Better luck next time... "

    LoneStarLady wrote on Dec 5, 2008 7:05 PM:

    " With Guns......We Are 'citizens"
    Without Guns.........We Are Subjects "

    LoneStarLady wrote on Dec 5, 2008 5:27 PM:

    " The Second Amendment is about protecting OUR rights- and about protecting us from our Legislators who want to take our guns away from us.
    AND WE ARE WELL ON OUR WAY, Thanks to Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
    They have already introduced a Senate Bill that will give the UNITED NATIONS the power to take our GUNS
    It's called "The Global Poverty Bill"
    They don't want to just "spread the wealth around" in the United States- but the ENTIRE WORLD!
    And tucked away in this "warm and fuzzy" sounding bill- is the right to take our guns! "

    Reader wrote on Dec 5, 2008 3:53 PM:

    " Hey Ben C

    What papers do you read?
    (no fair looking them up on the internet) "

    Ben C wrote on Dec 5, 2008 3:24 PM:

    " To Gun Owner in Palmer
    I'm also a gun-owner in Palmer and since I read the national news, I can state for a fact that gun rights aren't back-burner subjects for Congress. In fact, it's already been reported that several members of Congress are looking forward to the new administration to 'finally help' them bring about changes (restrictions) to your rights. Obama recently stated that he supports signing a UN charter that the US has refused to sign up till now because a part of it requires all signing nations to ban handguns. "

    to Gun Owner wrote on Dec 5, 2008 3:21 PM:

    " Do we really think gun rights are anywhere on the radar screen? Well, uh, yeah...since there's multiple states right now that are watching thier 2nd Amendment rights being eroded or attacked. And with input and assistance from members of Congress. California is dealing with a long list of new laws that are removing thier rights with ridiculous requirements and new definitions. Washington is facing a challenge to remove "any ammunition containing lead" (which leaves what?) and to expand the definition of banned materials to include reloading powder. And it goes on and on. Obama is one of the supporters. "

    Gun Owner in Palmer wrote on Dec 5, 2008 11:36 AM:

    " Good grief; get a grip! With our economy in shambles, global warming, loss of individual liberties (thanks to Bush), worldwide recession and our federal butget in the toilet, do you really think the 2nd amendment and guns are anywhere near the radar screen? At the worse Obama is indifferent. The shrill makes me want to yawn. "

    to sorryinmass wrote on Dec 5, 2008 8:11 AM:

    " Alaska is one of the states that still honors the 2nd Amendment. Anyone of legal age and who can legally own a firearm can carry. There used to be a concealed permit requirement, but they recently did away with it. However, it's still handy to have if we choose to travel and carry in those states that recognize our permits. I'm aware of the restrictions that Massachussetts puts upon you and you have my sympathy! "

    sorryinmass wrote on Dec 5, 2008 7:14 AM:

    " Quick question, What is the permitting process in Alaska, Here in Mass we have to go to the local Police Chief, and pay a $100.00 Plus fee for our permits. They are renewed every 6 years. Yes the police chief can deny any request for any reason then you have to sue in court. There have been several Police Chiefs who refused to permit anyone in their city/town and were taken to court. I only own 1 handgun and really don't use it (it's trigger locked and in a safe) but I don't want gun rights taken away "

    Ben C wrote on Dec 4, 2008 10:17 PM:

    " To Patriot;
    Nice to see there's somebody else in here who paid attention in history. Yes, one of Hitler's first acts after assuming total control was to enact a ban on the private ownership of firearms. But I think they'll be typically sneaky about it, like they do in California and Washington, and not try to ban firearms outright. They'll just ban all ammo containing lead 'for the environment', and then keep changing the definition of 'assault weapon' until almost every handgun fits the definition or it becomes too expensive for the manufacturers to build them to comply. "

    Patriot wrote on Dec 4, 2008 8:51 AM:

    " After reading the majority of post's it's plain to see that liberalism is a mental disorder, and unfortunately it seems to be spreading here in Alaska. Turn off your TV's, cancel your liberal newspaper subscription and get informed. Our country is being sold out, our Constitution is being trashed. The same thing that happened in Germany is taking place now in America. Get informed; "It''s better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." "

    Wishful wrote on Dec 4, 2008 7:57 AM:

    " Let the HYSTERIA begin! Poor pathetic Alaskans with you lipstick PIG, go kill something if it makes you feel better. Wahoo bang bang "

    Leon wrote on Dec 4, 2008 6:32 AM:

    " funny, so many claiming paranoi, rhetoric, but then again youre commenting is only preserved by the right of freedom of speech, a right that is only preserved by the people and there right to enforce it...Regisration- why would anyone want to register private property? once it registered its not private
    I just dont think people understand the concept of private property and commerce.,but what the heck youre all way more intelligent than anyone else. "

    To the uninformed wrote on Dec 4, 2008 2:01 AM:

    " DanB an those who don't think is happening need to do some studying. I suggest looking into the Ammunition Accountibility Act and congressional bills being written. As for cutting down on crime, do you think gangs and other thugs will comply with laws? Do some research, the villiage already has enough idiots. But then again every society and species, has its weak ones. "

    DanB wrote on Dec 3, 2008 6:26 PM:

    " Your claim that registration of firearms is only for "taxation and confiscation" is very interesting.

    Ever consider that it might cut down on murders, robberies and injuries ? Must not be much crime where you live. And confiscation ....and what would you hunt with ?2kcfj "

    Big Lake 13 wrote on Dec 3, 2008 11:33 AM:

    " It is Congress that wants to limit or take away gun rights. Yes they can because the Democrats control now. There is talk of serial numbers on bullets. U.S. Citizens will stop this from happening, you just have to stay on top of bills being discussed in both the House and Senate. "

    History major wrote on Dec 2, 2008 10:01 PM:

    " I recommend the book The End of America by Naomi Wolf. She is a bleeding heart liberal feminazi, but she knows her history. Even a liberal Democrat like her can see plainly that our rights are going down the toilet. It is not paranoia, it is just a repeat of history. Also, Jews for the preservation of firearms website has some good, factual info on the issue. If you don't think it can happen here, please move to another country. I really don't enjoy saying I told you so. "

    Youre kidding right wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:13 PM:

    " This letter is ignorant, paranoid crap. Surely it was published only for the entertainment value. "

    jp wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:09 PM:

    " i may be going out on a limb here, but, i think we all should revolt, and take our country back, as the ones running it have overwhelmingly proved that they are indeed "incompetent" and should not have any power over/for the people.

    it is a sad day indeed when the peoples of our great country have no control over our senate and house!
    they have not represented us on issues like the "Bailout" i have met no single person who would have condoned this action!
    ask yourself why?
    and act upon it!!! "

    Whadda wrote on Dec 2, 2008 8:57 PM:

    " Bunch of right-wing nut jobs "

    HA HA What an intellect wrote on Dec 2, 2008 8:04 PM:

    " 'Everybody here is so stupid. Losers' WOW! What amazing dialogue! What amazing discourse and cutting debate! LOL! And Obama 'taking your guns' is crap? Really? Well, there's one person for sure that never bothers to investigate, read or research anything for themself! I suppose Obama's PUBLIC RECORD on the matter is all...what? Make believe? No wonder liberals are viewed as being mindless sheep... "

    grrrr wrote on Dec 2, 2008 7:45 PM:

    " Everyone on here is so stupid. Stop arguing and get on with life. Losers. "

    Fantasmagorical wrote on Dec 2, 2008 3:45 PM:

    " Wow, you have gotta be kidding me. Can't you come up with better fantasies than this "taking my guns" crapp? And comparing Obama to Hitler is way out there. You should check into getting some meds, I think you're way out of whack. "

    To Pathetic wrote on Dec 2, 2008 3:37 PM:

    " Why wait until he becomes President to voice our disgust when he's already stating that he's going to back out of his promises (because they were lies in the first place)? 'Change' meant a return of all the old Clinton cronies? Yeah, right...we should 'give him a chance' first before complaining! Sheesh "

    To it seems wrote on Dec 2, 2008 3:35 PM:

    " Educate ourselves? You mean like looking at Obama's voting record on guns? His support for the UN accord that he would sign wherein we agree to ban handguns? His approval of banning all ammunition that contains lead 'for the sake of the environment' (99% of ammo would fit under this description)? Seems like indeed, somebody needs an education! As far as being liars and idiots..well gosh, we can't all be as honest as the Clintons and Obama (snicker snicker)! "

    To Pathetic wrote on Dec 2, 2008 2:57 PM:

    " But it is our right not to like him for what he stands for. Sorry you do not like the turth.. "

    Pathetic wrote on Dec 2, 2008 1:13 PM:

    " You anti-Obama folks disgust me! Most democrats were greatly saddened when Bush Jr. won in 2000, but dispite our dislike of him, we still gave him a chance and initially threw him our support. Obama hasn't even taken office and you're already attacking him, quite viciously [Fuhrer?], without any grounds for your attacks. If you want to bash him... at least wait for him to actually do something as President you don't like. You're all sad excuses for an Americans. "

    Caswell comment wrote on Dec 2, 2008 12:20 PM:

    " Whatever damage Obama can inflict on our Constitutional Rights will probably be worst in the first two years with his strong majorities in congress.In 2010 he will likely take heavy losses IF the republicans can field true quality conservative(not Bush neocons) candidates.Obama inherited a real mess the making of which started 20+ years ago. I wish him luck but it would take the real MESSIAH to get us out of this and you Mr.Obama are no messiah. Keep your hands off our Constitutional Rights or prepare to face the wrath of those who cherish it. "

    Observer wrote on Dec 2, 2008 11:59 AM:

    " After a period of chipping away at the second ammendment Obama may try to impose restrictive regulations on amounts of guns and ammunition possessed and record ammo sales(done years ago but proved a failure). Gun owner licensing and registration will follow other "reasonable"measures.A real or orchestrated terror event could lead to the loss of any registered weapon if martial law was instituted "for the greater good". Obama is likely to support the U.N. gun ban treaty supported by the Clinton Administration and thwarted by Bush. Such a treaty supercedes our Constitution. Join and support the NRA. Time is short. "

    it seems... wrote on Dec 2, 2008 11:30 AM:

    " conservatives have become liars and idiots....I have many guns, no one will take them. Conservatives are really a silly lot these days, no wonder they are losing elections, left and right. Educate yourselves before runnng your mouths. "

    Observer wrote on Dec 2, 2008 11:28 AM:

    " Mr.Obama is an enemy of the second amendment however I expect him to first outlaw importation of most ammunition and ban importatation and domestic production of "high"capacity magazines. Possession of "assault" type weapons will most likely be "grandfathered" in for now. After a time ammunition will be heavily taxed to pay for "gun violence" and lead in bullets banned(driving costs way up) to"save the environment". Encoding of ammunition and destruction of all uncoded ammunition after two years is also being discussed. Obama is a skilled politician who will move slowly but steadily unless a "national emergency"provides greater opportunities. "

    Ammo will be the 1st to go not our guns. wrote on Dec 2, 2008 10:39 AM:

    " When they do decide to take our guns away, they won't be doing a house to house search confiscating firearms, no. Instead, they will stop the production and sale of ammunition to citizens. What use is a gun without bullets? If you buy half a case of ammo with everyother paycheck, I think you'll be okay. Bullets are what make a gun effective, not the gun itself. Also, think about getting into reloading your own ammunition. "

    Jim from Boston wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:41 AM:

    " You forget the step when Obama sends U.N. Blue helmets in armored vehicles to confiscate your hunting rifles.

    On the other hand I think what conservatives find most galling about the liberal attitude toward firearms is that we find them utterly boring. "

    TRC wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:23 AM:

    " All you have to do is simply look at Obamas voting record as a senator to clearly see where he stands on firearms. The new V.P. even worse. Chicago has one of the highest crime rates and the strictest gun control laws. Look at what happened to Australia. After their huge gun confiscation took place. Violent crime skyrocketed. Rapes increased 60%.Criminals prefer unarmed victims. Politicians prefer unarmed peasants. "

    Does Anyone Care wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:10 AM:

    " That the US Supreme Court has already ruled that the very things Butts is describing CANNOT LEGALLY BE DONE? It's not going to happen. He's a fear mongering blowhard who is one of our most dependable letter-writing-crackpots. Ignore him. Nobody is coming for your guns. Period.

    Drop the Fuhrer crap. It is offensive to those of us who actually lived through Hitler's rule. If you actually think Obama will come for your family in the night the way Hitler did for mine, you are certifiable. "

    Patriot wrote on Dec 2, 2008 8:53 AM:

    " I agree RK, our right to bare arms is going to be severely under attack, I see it this way;
    Ammunition and gun sales will stop nation wide and gun shows will be outlawed. Those who have registered guns will be sent a letter to turn their guns in by a certain date or go to jail. Those who fail to comply will be visited by ATF, at that point it's up to each individual, comply and go to the pokey, or stand up and fight, see ya in the trenches. "

    Ben C wrote on Dec 2, 2008 7:57 AM:

    " The liberals will keep hoping for this gun ban thing because it sounds good. It sounds like it would decrease crime. They don't like pesky things like 'facts' that prove that every industrial nation that has restricted or removed the right to own firearms has seen an INCREASE in violent crime! They tie guns to crime as though before the advent of the firearm, man was such a peaceful creature! Or maybe they hope to aslo ban knives, baseball bats, tire-irons, large rocks etc. Interesting fact; Germany's new leader banned the private ownership of guns in 1936, too! "

    John M wrote on Dec 2, 2008 7:56 AM:

    " What a idiot, there have been many democrats elected president and never has anyone had thier guns taken away from them. This is just your typical republican complainer "

    jp wrote on Dec 2, 2008 7:24 AM:

    " the Obaminator wants to disarm the people for "the safety of all", well, we know the truth about disarming of the people, as San Francisco has proven.
    one of the highest crime rates in the nation, as only the criminals have guns there.
    i figure, buy non-registered guns, then nobody knows you have them!
    if the law abiding citizen buys up the street guns, it would reduce the amount of guns to the criminals. "

    T. Means Palmer wrote on Dec 2, 2008 12:01 AM:

    " Greater men have opined this subject. I defer to them.

    "A free people ought to be jealous of their rights and liberties, and they must always stand on guard to protect them; few people have it and those that do must fight to keep it". John Adams

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety". Benjamin Franklin

    Alaskans have the heart and will to fight for their liberty. If pressed, I believe Alaska would secede rather than succumb to an existence without this inalienable right. "

    Spankles wrote on Dec 1, 2008 10:14 PM:

    " Obama wants to disarm us. We must not let that happen. "

    jake wrote on Dec 1, 2008 9:29 PM:

    " i dont think its gonna be that bad. they have never been that bad since the us is a country. i do like your states law of being able to carry a concealed weapon without a permit "

    how about wrote on Dec 1, 2008 8:55 PM:

    " The sky is falling...Come on R.K., we hear that same tired old fear mongering threat every time. Wanna bet you still have your weapons in 4 years? You know you will, so keep your guns and give up the rhetoric... "

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