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oh really wrote on Apr 14, 2009 8:33 PM:

" "If you want to blame the bar staff lets see you deal with the crap they have to." Oh really? Poor, poor babies......they choose that job! And they instigate the majority of the so called "crap" that the poor babies have to put up with! Get rid of the doorman and replace him with somebody who knows how to deal with intoxicated people without beating the crap out of them. Nita needs to go too. She is the biggest instigator of all! Frontiersman wont let me use the words to describe her. "




Over paid babysitter wrote on Apr 14, 2009 3:24 PM:

" Its amazing how people react when a situations occurs like this one. Everyone always blaming other people instead of the people that actually need to be blamed or themselves. If you want to blame alcohol lets make Mat-Su a dry valley. If you want to blame the bar staff lets see you deal with the crap they have to. If you want to blame the door guys then put your feet in their shoes. O I forgot no ones to fix the problem only blame everyone else. Grow up these guys made a mistake now they will pay. "




yes its me wrote on Apr 14, 2009 2:12 PM:

" you know tailgaters is all that bad, its a same that the shootting happens and everyone all of a sudden starts talking bout how bad of a place it is. It wasn't the bar fault that two brothers made a horrible choice that now they both have to live with... on the other hand I do agree with the fact that they need to get rid of the black haired cocktail waitress and the bartender on the weekends during the day.. the old bartender on the weekends was the best next to the manager.. "




Me too wrote on Apr 14, 2009 9:21 AM:

" I have seen the bartenders cause confrontation with people too and then turn it around on them. It's like theyre on some kind of power trip or something. The owner would get more busness if they hired all new bar staff. "




Pending lawsuit on the Lees wrote on Apr 14, 2009 7:37 AM:

" This is a bad, BAD day for the Lee family. The boys have shamed the name and demonstrated the lowest level of thought and judgement. They will no doubt be buried under a lawsuit and as the facts roll out as to why he was firing rounds at tailchasers he will sound more and more hollow because there is simply no incident worth the response he gave by shooting. Simply pathetic, it's too bad the Lee used to be a name to be proud of, now it's not even a punchline, it's a shameful word like coward,fool or both. "




Out and About wrote on Apr 13, 2009 10:51 PM:

" I go out often, and to tailgaters, and hardly anything ever happens. It is not the bars fault that some people are stupid when drunk. i have seen the bartenders there take action when people are gettting out of hands. if you think is place is bad, take a look at mat su. you going to blam their bartenders to. tailgaters is one of the few decent bars in wasilla. sadly people just cant grow up. sorry this happend, the harassing and the shooting. "




I Witness wrote on Apr 12, 2009 6:34 AM:

" First of all, The Bartenders and waitresses at Tailgaiters all have extremely bad attitudes and will cause confrontation whenever possible, (See: Crystal "Red", Jennifer). But if WPD had listened to Witnesses OUTSIDE who saw the final shots and saw him drive away rather than allowing the bartenders husband to play with evidence out behind the bar where the final shot was fired, the right guy might have been scooped in the beginning. Finally, Many of you need spelling lessons. "




BOTTOM LINE wrote on Apr 10, 2009 7:40 PM:

" Well if the shooter wouldnt have covered his face with a bandanna "like a coward" their wouldnt have been any confusion as to which one did it. Botttom line a crime was commited and now its time to suffer the consequences. DONALD and DUANE you both made a bad choice and now its time to man up! Way to make your family proud especially your Dad "Retired Police Officer"!!!!!!!!!!!! "




Possible pending lawsuit wrote on Apr 9, 2009 5:11 PM:

" If you have witnessed or personally had a problem with any employee at Tailgaters please send a message outlining what you saw or what happened to you to: tailgaterssuck@gmail.com. Please provide contact information. Your information will remain confidential unless you give permission to release it. "




Not the bars fault wrote on Apr 9, 2009 5:08 PM:

" If it is entirely not the bars fault then why do bartenders and bouncers have to have TAM cards? What are they taught and what are the questions on the test that is required to be passed before obtaining a TAM card? Nope not babysitters. Just responsible servers of alcohol. Yes, the bar does play a role in this. "




Damon wrote on Apr 9, 2009 10:47 AM:

" I think it is not the bars fault at all people should be responceible and limit there drinking and not have people baby sit them grow up. "




P.R.Lee wrote on Apr 8, 2009 8:47 PM:

" Well now, I guess we all know just how drunk all you "EYE WITNESSES" were, and I'm glad the Wasilla P.D. did their duty by letting you all drive our streets to get home, without using a cab!!! And to think, ALL 5 OF YOU PICKED OUT THE WRONG PERSON!!
And as for the Military Personnel, Donny's Brother is in Iraq defending This Country while "these" wonderful PEOPLE are making false statements to the Police. If I were you, I'd go examine your EYES & DRINKING PROBLEMS!!!
Comments anyone?
Donny, Denny, Pam Lee "




female soldier wrote on Apr 8, 2009 7:53 PM:

" tailgaters is a great bar, that is one of the bars we enjoy going to, becuz its a good place where we can go and get out of our work environment, and just have a beer as any other civilian. I am gonna say the two guys were very nice for protecting me, i am very thankful. we are just glad no one got hurt. it could have been alot worse. so no it was not anybody at the bars fault, it was simply a guy wanting what he couldnt have, thats why were all family in the military "




female soldier wrote on Apr 8, 2009 7:48 PM:

" i am the female the the guys were harrassing. i am gonna say it was not the bartenders fault. she was very helpful, and i thank her very much. yes we are all soldiers, we were not asking for this to happen. the two people that i was with were fellow soldiers but on that note, us all being military has nothing to do with this. we may be soliders but it should not happen to anyone soldier or not. on another note, if you dont know the facts to the case, it would be wise to not post comments. "




DESERT ROSE wrote on Apr 8, 2009 6:38 PM:

" I HAVE BEN IN TAILGATERS ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS WEEKDAYS, WEEKENDS, TO SING OR TO DINE,
I WILL NEVER GO BACK TO THE BAR SIDE, BECAUSE THERE IS SOME STAFF THAT SEEMS TO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO START TROUBLE WITH THE PATRONS AND THEN TURN IT AROUND ON THEM, I THINK THE OWNERS SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR EMPLOYEES AND MAYBE THINK ABOUT STARTING OVER WITH A BRAND NEW STAFF AND SEE IF THAT DOESNT SOLVE THE PROBLEMS BEFORE SOMEONE ENDS UP DEAD OR THE PLACE IS SHUT DOWN !!! "




Jonathan Ashburn wrote on Apr 8, 2009 9:45 AM:

" Unless you were there, keep your mouth shut! I'm best friends with the girl who was harassed by this punk and I went to Donald Lee's arraignment. He did not pull the trigger. He is sticking up for his brother who did the shooting. Why I do not know. He didn't realize the charges nor the sentence that he is facing. Quit blaming the bar! They had nothing to do with this! And thank you Eddie for sticking up for Whit. Sorry Lolly about your BMW being struck. Whit is a soldier as well :]. "




Regular wrote on Apr 8, 2009 9:14 AM:

" Tailgaters is the LAST bar in the Valley that needs to be shut down! There are VERY few issues there! Just because some punk carries a gun and isn't smart enough not to use it that doesn't mean the bar should be shut down. As far as the doorman goes I have NEVER seen him use force when it wasn't necessary. I have actually seen him not use force when he probably should have. So, quit blaming the establishment and blame the MORON who is responsible. "




Alaskan_Stranger wrote on Apr 7, 2009 11:54 PM:

" I'm just glad nobody got seriously hurt here. This could have been deadly, for more than the parties initially involved. A stray bullet here, a slight ricochet there.. "




a.a. member wrote on Apr 7, 2009 10:40 PM:

" I feel the bar is not the problem many people go to tailgaters every weekend some get drunk some drink water some Yes some times there is a fight. The bar staff does their very best to make sure everyone is safe. About the shooting that man came back to the bar looking to kill two soldiers the bar did not make the man come back. so all I can say is I hope he get a long sentence he put many people in danger. Those soldiers stood up for a young woman.To those two soldiers god bless you. "




d.d wrote on Apr 7, 2009 10:28 PM:

" About the woman dragged out by the doorman you forfot to mention she to a swing at the bartender because the doorman would not let her in as she was to drunk. by the way she was a city council woman and the mayor was at the bar at the time he told the doorman he did the right thing. so I say to you get all your ducks in a row before you attack a business. also what side business? you make it sound like the whole bar staff is corrupt. "




Oh the poor woman wrote on Apr 7, 2009 9:42 PM:

" Was he really being a jerk or was it that bartender who LOVES to start fights? I'm thiking it was the bartender. She probably instigated the whole thing! The employees at Tailgaters are REEEEAAALL good at making up stories. I know this for a FACT. Was there a doorman on duty on a Monday night? I thought they only had a doorman on the weekends. "




JWA wrote on Apr 7, 2009 9:25 PM:

" I wonder what doorman at tailgaters they are talking about the head doorman is a united states military man its ok for him to defend our country but not ok for him to remove druken people from the bar maybe those that write in should really check the facts befor they run off at the mouth!!!!! "




Memories wrote on Apr 7, 2009 8:49 PM:

" Wasilla needs another salvation army. "




Know the facts FIRST. wrote on Apr 7, 2009 6:28 PM:

" For your information this story is no bull. The individuals being shot at were our soliders who were protecting a women from two punks who were harrassing her. The punk who fired the rounds has been charged with serveral felonies, but due to our crappy system will post bail. Lee was not overserved alcohol he is just a kid who hid behind a gun. "




obamabinladen wrote on Apr 7, 2009 3:12 PM:

" I want to thank all my supporters who are quick to blame the bar for an individuals idiocy. People like you are what make the the great nation I, the great and all powerful Obama, intend to dictate, a reality! First shut down the bars and then take away these people's guns! Yes my sheep... oops, I mean children, yes...
This is the first I have heard of any real issues at Tailgators. I wonder if some of the rhetoric isn't made up. And from the spelling and grammer I also wonder if it isn't coming from a 5yo. "




Noteably wrote on Apr 7, 2009 2:44 PM:

" This man was not charged with a DUI. So you cannot say he was over served and blame this on the establishment. "




Self righteous Wasillians wrote on Apr 7, 2009 2:39 PM:

" Reading these comments makes me feel like so many people have lost love and hope for man kind. "I hope he gets long sentencing".. Oh yeah? I don't hope he gets years and years in prison. How about hoping that he gets the help he needs so that he never allows himself to do something like this again.
"Time to crack down on tailgaters and shut them down". Are you serious and completely oblivious to life in general? Look, bad things happen everywhere. People make bad decisions all the time. This could have happened anywhere that serves alcohol. The ability_to_make_poor_decisions_isn't_limited_by_physical_location. "




Chief of police wrote on Apr 7, 2009 1:31 PM:

" The Chief of police needs to get off her fat butt and get to work. There is more going on at tailgaters than they eye can see. Could it be that WPD is turning a blind eye to the "side business" going on inside tailgaters? "




Over serving wrote on Apr 7, 2009 1:28 PM:

" The law says you are not to over serve alcohol. These folks are supposed to have TAM cards and classes where they are taught that it is against the LAW to over serve. They are also taught what signs to look for to ascertain if somebody is inebriated. Tailgaters has a responsibility in this. Tailgaters needs to be shut down. I hope Mr. Lee sues the heck out of them for over serving him and causing him be drunk enough to loose control like this! ha! Wouldn't THAT be great! "




TJ wrote on Apr 7, 2009 1:02 PM:

" You can't blame the bar for it's patrons behaviour. What bar in the valley DOESNT over-serve people. I know that I've been WAY overserved at the Mat-Su Resort, Best Western, Mug-Shot, Tailgaters AND EVEN GREAT BEAR.

Blame the individual, not the establishment. Know your own limit and stick to it. It isn't the bartender's job to be your babysitter. "




stepnorth wrote on Apr 7, 2009 12:44 PM:

" About time to close this place down before someone gets killed. Too much trouble at this place. Good bet that everyone involved funk the DUI test. Any place that hires bouncers with records isn't going to be a peaceful place. "




Hello Wasilla We have graduated wrote on Apr 7, 2009 12:36 PM:

" This is not a celebration but a sure sad sign of the direction Wasilla is heading. I was in Tailgaters a couple of months ago and watched the doorman DRAG a small woman out the doors by her neck in a headlock! This place is too violent! When is somebody going to do something about this place?! ABC board where are you????
I wonder if Mr. Lee was OVER SERVED ALCOHOL? WPD it is time to CRACK DOWN on Tailgaters! "




Wasilla Patrol wrote on Apr 7, 2009 12:23 PM:

" I am really glad no one was physically hurt. I also hope this VERY young "Man" gets a long sentance from this, though it will be plead down probably for a quick case. "