MEA general manager may be finished

BY ANDREW WELLNER
Frontiersman
Published on Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:12 PM AKDT

PALMER – Wayne Carmony’s tenure as general manager of the Matanuska Electric Association appears to be either at its end or very close to it.

“I’m happy that we acted today,” MEA board of directors member Katie Hurley said at the end of the body’s marathon five-hour meeting Monday.

The meeting had two closed sessions, the first of which ended with the board convening to direct its attorney, Robin Brena, to offer Carmony a severance package consistent with a memo Brena distributed to the board members on June 9. The details of that memo were not discussed or otherwise made public.

Board member David Glines said that he agreed that the action needed to be taken but said he did not fully agree with the severance package offer each board member was asked to sign.

Though he signed the offer, he said, “I do intensely disagree with some of the wording.”  

Carmony attended the board’s second closed session, leaving soon after.

Whether he was immediately terminated or just placed on leave was unclear by the end of the meeting. But the last action the board took seemed to imply Carmony is finished.

“I move that we form a search committee [to find] an interim general manager,” board member Kit Jones said.

Her motion passed without objection. The committee will be made up of board members Hurley, Glines and Janet Kincaid.

Comments

40 comment(s)

    Gas Bag Still a whiner wrote on Jun 15, 2009 5:17 AM:

    " So Gas Bag insults every MEA manager, guess no one was ever smart enough to promote Gas Bag. Check again on CA Gas Bag. Hint: 2007. Do you even know what the efficiency rate is on the Wartsilla? Your thirst for vengance blinds you to reality and facts. And Chugach workers drop a wrench at Teeland and 30,000 lose power...a raven lands on a transformer, so they say, at ML&P and everybody goes black. It is easy to make cheap shots, Gas Bag. You can not get it right. "

    Dennis O. wrote on Jun 14, 2009 8:18 AM:

    " That's it. No more fake names. If you don't use your real name you don't exist I challenge every Frontiersman blogger to use your real name, at least as much as I do, and completely ignore those who don't. I am sick of being personally attacked by cowards who conceal their identiies. YOU no longer exist.

    I know The MEA board is corrupt, I know the new Bylaws are in effect, and I know Lester is OFF the board. But this board wants to make up new rules as it goes along, and fools still sing their praises. "

    To Dennis wrote on Jun 14, 2009 8:14 AM:

    " You protest toooo much, why is that? There appears to be self interest involved? Just get over it. "

    Dennis O. wrote on Jun 13, 2009 2:49 PM:

    " I know a corrupt board of directors when I see it and you are part of the cover up, "Get Educated", it is you who is the problem. Like the Wizard of Oz, oh, don't look behind the curtain there's nothing to see there! But there is, and you are up to your eyballs in it and too cowardly to use your real name. If you are going to tell others who to believe, at least have the guts to tell them who you are so they can make their own judgement. How pathetic. "

    To Which Way Will the Board Go wrote on Jun 13, 2009 10:30 AM:

    " Nevertheless, Lester remains, and will remain, and quite legally. Here's a thought thought...how about you file a lawsuit against MEA and force the issue in the courts. If you are right you will be vindicated. If however, 200+ years of legal precedent holds and state laws and standing legal rulings are again found to supercede co-op bylaws, you will be proven wrong. You whine and moan and carp from the corner because you have no actual belief that you are right and no faith that you can achieve the result you want. So keep whining, its music to us. "

    Gas Plant wrote on Jun 12, 2009 8:47 PM:

    " A 10,000 customer outage from a car -pole accident, the Briggs Tap wars with ML&P, and a power plant without proper infrastructure. Wayne, you'll be missed as long as Ken was, and Diamond Jim before that, and Malcolm before that. You've had a good run, is it a record? "

    Gas Plant wrote on Jun 12, 2009 8:12 PM:

    " I'm a happy winner and I'm only saying all your eggs in Wayne's basket is possibly not "independence" maybe it's like an emergency that turns into $.60 kWh energy. Ask the folks in Juneau. "

    Gas Plant wrote on Jun 12, 2009 5:03 PM:

    " To Gas Bag
    The only reciprocating units I found on the internet approved for use in Ca where 7MW at the largest and where approved to encourage "distributed generation". Care to provide any more details?
    The engineer told one of the board members who inquired about his experience, he said he engineered small generation plants for hospitals and the bush.
    Ya know, Bag Man, you read like the sore loser. "

    Get Educated wrote on Jun 11, 2009 10:36 PM:

    " Facts: MEA was around $18,000,000 in the black when Carmony arrived. We are know around $95,000,000 in the red. Do you really think Wayne lowered rates for the past 15 years?? Lets call it deferred payments. MEA's system is far from reliable. MEA is ran into the dirt. Carmony ran it into the dirt, got us in debt, and fought with everyone. People who see him as MEA's best option really need to get educated. 100 words allowed in this comment is not enough to explain the mess Wayne is leaving. "

    Get Educated wrote on Jun 11, 2009 10:31 PM:

    " I would like to respond to Dennis O and others like him... It's hard to know what to say to your comments. You truly are uneducated when it comes to MEA. I really can't even begin to explain how far off you are. I just want to encourage everyone to really research all of the issues and please do not just listen to people like Dennis O. MEA and the ratepayers are much much better off without Carmony around. It's really actually laughable how little you know about MEA Dennis. Seriously get educated! "

    Gas Plant wrote on Jun 11, 2009 9:28 PM:

    " Dismissing Wayne's eggs since day one. "

    Gas Plant wrote on Jun 11, 2009 8:36 PM:

    " I'm a sore winner? If making a 6 figure salary in the lower 48 is a loser, all I have to say is, thank you MEA, for all the great experience. I just like to heckle you kooks that still think the Enron model will work. Put all your eggs in Wayne's basket, I'll be spending my winters in Florida "

    Gas Bag at it again wrote on Jun 11, 2009 10:33 AM:

    " Gas Bag finally lets the cat out of the bag...he is a sore loser from 15 years ago who sits around waiting for revenge. His understanding of gas plants and appropriate size is ignorant beyond belief. The technology he disses as "Bush Alaska" was recently installed in Northern California because it is the most cost efficient. Don't get caught up in Gas Bags tired revenge. There are many options, and pros and cons to each. The worst is putting all our eggs in the Chugach Electric basket - naturally, that is Lois Lester's plan. "

    MEA ratepayer wrote on Jun 11, 2009 10:30 AM:

    " Delusion is believing something to be true that has no basis in fact. Lois Lester is on the board and she will remain there, legally. No amount of whining and wishing it were otherwise will change that. "

    Gas Plant wrote on Jun 10, 2009 9:29 PM:

    " I was sent away 15 years ago by the King. I'm really trying to find something nice to say.
    A 30 year old system , poor maintenance, clueless management?
    Campfires anyone? "

    Gas Plant wrote on Jun 10, 2009 7:23 PM:

    " Listen to the board meeting, Wayne's choice for chief engineer has no experience with interconnected electric utilities or electric utility distribution systems. Can you say hack?
    I thought there was a bylaw against hiring Un-marry-able relatives of disgruntled former board members? "

    Gas plant wrote on Jun 10, 2009 6:58 PM:

    " Did anyone else hear the chief engineer advocating bush tech for the NEW Eklutna Gas Fiasco(NEGF)?
    Apparently he has no clue about interconnected utilities and economies of scale. Does Wayne really want to stick around to reap what he's sowed? Unlikely, he'll take the golden 'chute and make like a banana. After all, he's the smartest guy in the room "

    to To Which Way Will the Board Go wrote on Jun 10, 2009 5:09 PM:

    " There was no "date of enactment on the ballot or in the voter pamphlet. Therefore, the new bylaws went into effect thie instant they were certified. NO legal breif, or precedent, or case law or what the Bylaws Committee intended , or anything else means squat. The goofballs who run the bylaws committee blew it and they need to grow up and admit they failed. The new bylaws are currently IN EFFECT. Lester is OFF the board, no question. "

    Gas Plant wrote on Jun 10, 2009 4:48 PM:

    " Wayne leaves a worn out, poorly maintained distribution system, a hack and flunkies staff, and no source of power after 2014. Better put an accountant in charge because ignorance is bliss "

    To Which Way Will the Board Go wrote on Jun 10, 2009 3:10 PM:

    " You asked why the bylaws have not been enacted but the board members have been seated. Just wanted to clear that up. The Board members were already seated. Both winners were incumbents. The bylaws issues have not been enacted because it was the intention as expressly stated by the Bylaws committee that they be enacted January 1, 2010. Its in the Board minutes and on the audio records. The Board attorney has also issued rather lengthy legal opinions on the matter, citing numerous precedents and much case law. I hope that helps clear up a few things. "

    Just wondering wrote on Jun 10, 2009 3:06 PM:

    " All of you predicting gloom doom and financial ruin because of this board (just like you did last year and early this year during the elections you lost, but so far no financial ruin), I just want to ask a question. Do you actually believe any of the things you are saying? Do you actually think that this Board WANTS your rates to go up? That they WANT to "enslave us to Chugach", lose our strong financial rating, see the lights go out, or "destroy the co-op"? If so why do you think they would want that? "

    PS wrote on Jun 10, 2009 11:30 AM:

    " The linemen and tree clearing crews do a great job, so I'm attributing the lack of reliability to Carmony's poor management. The capital credits I've received over the years bought a few cups of coffee and probably cost more to send out than they were worth, so I'd rather have had the money go toward needed maintenance and upgrades. Good luck to the new board in bringing us up to date. "

    Reliable Power wrote on Jun 10, 2009 11:17 AM:

    " Lenny, Carmony's inability to play well with others may well have caused higher than necessary rates or no power at all when our Chugach contract is up in 2014. In my downtown home, the power goes off with regularity - twice this week so far. Not for long, but enough I don't set the clock on the coffee maker or microwave anymore. Carmony has gotten us into plenty of expensive and unnecessary legal battles and union wars over the years. Thanks, board members, for making the tough decisions best for our future. "

    offsoapstone wrote on Jun 10, 2009 11:09 AM:

    " Well with or without carmony the soap opera that is MEA will go on. I'm personal glad of the boards actions carmony and his group needed to go awhile back. As for power costs there going up folks no mater who's in charge only a matter of time. As for myself I'm looking at puting up one if not two wind turbans this summer so I can go off the grid. "

    Oops wrote on Jun 10, 2009 8:46 AM:

    " That's why they got Kincaid in there, she'll get rid of em all! Just another oldie running the show! "

    Eric Cartman wrote on Jun 9, 2009 8:52 PM:

    " Thank you Mr. Carmony for doing a good job, I think you're getting screwed by a bunch of screwballs who have no clue on how to run an electrical co-op. "

    LennyT wrote on Jun 9, 2009 8:48 PM:

    " Were MEA rates high? No. Was the power reliable? Yes. Is there union trouble? No. What exactly, is the vendetta the FOMS Board has against our MEA employees? Nobody would be getting any severance if the Board weren't so totally irresponsible and ham-fisted. Watching Lois Lester and Janet Kincaid is like watching reruns of the Laurel and Hardy. Except it is not funny. The naive MEA Board will end up costing ratepayers all the millions of dollars Wayne Carmony's strong management had saved us. "

    Gas Plant wrote on Jun 9, 2009 7:26 PM:

    " Members, with a $1B, 180MW Gas Plant we can gain independence.
    My only question is what is the cost of "independence". Heck, I'm not even sure what that means, let alone what's worth. We get some juice from Bradley Lake and Anchorage owns 2/3 of Eklutna Hydro, so we'll be grid connected no matter what lies Wayne tells. "

    Dennis O. wrote on Jun 9, 2009 5:21 PM:

    " Thank You Wayne for your dedicated service to the members of MEA, thanks.

    Thanks to the most corrupt board in the history of MEA, we wil now be subjected to an incompetent baffoon for a GM and he or she will run this co-op into the ground and the current board supporters will cheer and applaude them all the way. "

    Gas Plant wrote on Jun 9, 2009 4:44 PM:

    " Your lights rarely go out because things that happen to make your lights go don't happen very often but, when a car pole accident three miles from a substation burns down half the substation and puts 10,000 members out of service, like what happened to Shaw Sub in Dec. That is a sure sign of some serious lack of maintenance. Wayne keeps your costs down by POing the high paid professionals until they quit so he can hire hacks and flunkies to act friendly when a member calls. The linemen keep your lights on in spite of Wayne. "

    which way will the board go wrote on Jun 9, 2009 2:30 PM:

    " Now the board may have their way with Wayne gone-how about implementing the bylaws we approved at the annual meeting-the board members are seated why not the bylaws enacted? Thanks for the power on & low rates...the employees make this company not the board! "

    Thank you Wayne wrote on Jun 9, 2009 11:22 AM:

    " If this is true and Wayne is leaving, I would just like to say thank you for your service. You've done a good job at MEA; my rates are low, my power rarely goes out and I get good customer service when I call. And that's really the things that should matter to us as members. Not all this politico mumbo-jumbo that causes so much grief. I feel sorry for the employees of MEA who have to deal with this on a day to day basis. It must be like walking on pins and needles. No thanks to the board. "

    hate to tell you wrote on Jun 9, 2009 11:20 AM:

    " but Wayne is at work today. "

    valleygirl wrote on Jun 9, 2009 10:15 AM:

    " Thank you, MEA Board. You had the courage to do the right thing, doing what the majority of co-op members wanted. Keep your strength; keep up the good work. Now you can move on with the business you were voted in for and have always wanted to do: making us enenrgy efficient, cheap, and cooperative with other electrical utilities. Thank you very much. "

    Concerned wrote on Jun 9, 2009 9:56 AM:

    " MEA consumers will pay a very high price for the board's actions, the board has no interest in maintaing MEA's low rates, and strong financial rating. They will drive MEA into the ground and give MEA away, because it will be too hard to do the job they were elected to do, provide electricity at reasonable rates and get a power plant built. It's too bad that the committee to find an acting general manager has only one member, Mr. Glines, who knows what to do, the other two members are there for money. "

    allen wrote on Jun 9, 2009 9:37 AM:

    " The railroad job is now complete. "

    Rate Payer. wrote on Jun 9, 2009 9:27 AM:

    " King Carmony is gone. Hooray! Bin a long time a coming but needed. "

    Wake Up Mat-Su wrote on Jun 9, 2009 9:08 AM:

    " I hope that the people of Mat-Su and the rest of the MEA service area WAKE UP and pull their heads out! This board has been infiltrated with the likes of the "Friends of Mat-Su" and we are going to get take to the cleaners with our electric bills once they get their new pick in there!

    If this article is true and Mr. Carmony is out, I would personally like to say "THANK YOU" for doing a great job at running this co-op and putting up with the shenanigans of these buffoons for so long! "

    So Long Wayne wrote on Jun 9, 2009 8:25 AM:

    " I'd like to know what the bill was for Robin Brena, to carry out this execution. Since he was hired I bet the cost is over $100,000. As rate payers and owners of MEA we should demand a full disclosure of OUR money that is being squandered by these incompetent board members. Next to go should be Don Zoerb, who is currently campaigning for Wayne's job. After all he was and is the Chief Financial Officer and is just as responsible for MEAs financial woes. Good Luck Wayne; Good-bye and good riddance Don. "

    Former Employee wrote on Jun 9, 2009 7:36 AM:

    " Great job boared members! Carmony has deserved to be fired for a very long time. "

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