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to real smart wrote on Jun 23, 2009 8:53 PM:

" No. It would be nice if there was some sort of rules for when emergency services is there for what it's intended for and when somebody doing something they knew was dumb or an unecessary risk gets the bill. Rescuing mountian climbers for instance. Yes, we need to rescue them. But they were doing something that came with the strong risk of needing rescued. They should have to pay the bill to come pull them off the mountian. The girls were doing something stupid and should be billed appropriately. "




real smart wrote on Jun 23, 2009 9:59 AM:

" I haven't read through all these comments, but am I alone in thinking these people who fully KNOW they are putting themselves in danger, need to pick up the tab for the cost of rescue? It seems that no-one wants these people to learn a lesson here..... "




Palmer Farm wrote on Jun 19, 2009 9:10 PM:

" and yet again, somebody misses the point. 'Wondering about wackos' must have skimmed the blogs too fast.
The issue isn't that they made a mistake doing something stupid. We've all been there...
The issue is the attitude (as printed in this paper. The girls involved dispute that they said what was printed) wherein they didn't get the instant response they felt they deserved after making their mistake. As if it was everybody else's obligation to drop everything and come running to save them in a more timely fashion so as to help them avoid the inconvenience of having to wait. "




Wondering About the Wackos wrote on Jun 19, 2009 9:22 AM:

" So to all you people in the previous comments who have been so negative about the girls: are you saying it would have been ok if the people who had gotten stuck were, oh, I don't know, say beer guzzling 40-something adult men? People get stuck and in trouble all the time in Alaska while engaged in legal, traditional activities. There is no point at all in singling out these young ladies for your scorn and derision just because they are teens. You should GROW UP yourselves!!! Fie on you! "




Michelle wrote on Jun 18, 2009 9:39 PM:

" I know it was a silly thing for the girls to do..however I also think it a little silly of the tow companys to leave the girls out there becouse they didn't have enough money. she has a job, whats a few days to get paid? we spend more then that looking for adult mountain climbers. "




cousinkate wrote on Jun 18, 2009 8:10 PM:

" Ha Ha Ha!
A trend here among the "adults" its called illiteracy. Your reading comprehension is nill at best. The artical is more congradulatory, than admonishing. Or it would have said that they were taken into custody for criminal mischief.
She was trying to help friends, just as her "rotten selfish parents" taught her to do. lol.
Furthermore, The young ladies were not complaining. You are cold, wet , scared, & allmost watched your friend drown. We can all be assured that 90 mins seemed like 90 days! "




Lisnup wrote on Jun 18, 2009 7:49 PM:

" Ahhh shut up already! stupid kids, stupid acts, stupid blog. Stupidity rules....Now us tax payers pay the bill again for just having fun, being kids. and someone giving free car maintenance advice! Now that's the Alaskan way! Get R done "




Oops wrote on Jun 18, 2009 6:07 PM:

" nick entsminger wrote on Jun 17, 2009 9:22 PM:
" Nope, no bill. thats your tax dollars at work! XD "

Hope you're not related to one of these irresponsible teens - like Jessica Entsminger!! I find your remark almost smug. I wouldn't be bragging, we could raise enough stink to have changed and the teens billed. Power to the people!! I don't find humor in any of this. "




Jackson Reaves wrote on Jun 18, 2009 4:48 PM:

" Christal,

Even people that are 2,000 miles away heard that you did a little water boggin'
Glad that no one was hurt. I am glad you are driving a FORD!
its o'k Alaska! Mind your business!
Jackson,

aunt "crazy" mary "




rescuer from somewhere other than Palmer wrote on Jun 18, 2009 11:06 AM:

" OK, first of all, stop picking on the girls. This could have happened to anybody.Mistakes happen and they are very lucky things turned out as they did. I am sure they have learned a lesson all their own.
As a rescuer myself, I see this type of thing happen every year. Remember all rescue personnel are volunteer. Only dive team is allowed into the water. It will take time. Be safe and be patient. Pack extra gear and stay warm. Help arrives as soon as it can. "




Rainboo wrote on Jun 18, 2009 10:45 AM:

" "granny" must of started hitting the sauce early in life, she still finds no responsibility in ones actions young or old. Yeah granny you rock!! encouraging our youth stupidity and life threatening (near death) irresponsibility cuz it's fun, bet you believe in abstinence over sex education too! "




to Granny wrote on Jun 18, 2009 9:23 AM:

" and back in your day did you blame everybody around you for your actions and for not coming to your rescue as quickly as you thought they should have? I always kind of pegged that as a defining symptom of todays bratty, whiny, instant-gratification generation. "




Granny- wrote on Jun 18, 2009 1:31 AM:

" Girls- keep camping and having fun. You might want to stop reading comments from all the perfect people.


Some posters are forgetful or liars. There are NO (interesting) adults who can't think of a number of crazy (some near death!) stunts from their teenage years.


The difference IMO is that stories today are easily shared, rather than in my day, when it was easier to keep silly things a secret.


Try to stay safe, but DO have fun too! Maybe I'll see you camping some time... "




Uncle Jed wrote on Jun 18, 2009 1:16 AM:

" I'm proud of these younguns for getting outdoors and enjoying nature. It's better than sitting around smoking crack and acting like a gangster. "




nick entsminger wrote on Jun 17, 2009 9:22 PM:

" Nope, no bill. thats your tax dollars at work! XD "




AKVoter wrote on Jun 17, 2009 4:51 PM:

" I hope they are billed!! "




Real Deal wrote on Jun 17, 2009 10:19 AM:

" Just because something is in quotation marks doesn't mean it is an exact quote. Any one can put anything in quotation marks. (It's not right, but it is done.)I have experienced this a couple of times. The reporter puts something in an article that I never said. It makes for a more interesting article, but it is not accurate. Don't believe everything you read nor read more into something than what is really there. I'm sure these girls are grateful for the help they did receive. I'm sure they feel bad enough without all the crtical comments. "




Oops wrote on Jun 16, 2009 3:05 AM:

" I hope they're charged up the ying yang, this stupidity needs to stop. "




Mike wrote on Jun 15, 2009 12:07 PM:

" Glad you folks are OK.
Admire the effort to help your friends, but I imagine you realize from these comments that it is politically incorrect to do that anymore. :-)
Be careful, live long and hard, and prosper!
Mike "




Trev wrote on Jun 13, 2009 5:55 AM:

" Reading rivers: Judging flow rate and depth can be difficult for inexperienced people. I have run jet boats and crossed a lot of Alaska's rivers in my life. Never hurts to have extra gear stowed away in your truck, straps, jacks, ect... I'm sure they didn't want all the extra attention either. I'm glad everybody is ok. Besides, bumper deep isn't bad, looks like they may have got their tires sucked into the loose gravel bottom. That's an expensive oops, glacier silt water kills mechanical and electrical components, give them a little slack. "




Sarah Keller wrote on Jun 12, 2009 9:05 PM:

" & please dont be disrespectful about the "almost dying" scenario.. are you really gonna make fun of ppl saying we could've died.. its a strong river & death is a possibility. i had the confidence that we'd be fine. i thought out what to do if we were in the situation of the car possibly moving or tipping or something.. if you think that there really was No possibility of death occurring, you obviously underestimate water pressure.. we knew we were going to be alright to a certain extent okay? trust me, we do Not want sympathy, just perhaps apathy&understanding...? "




Sarah Keller wrote on Jun 12, 2009 8:58 PM:

" the only ones you should fully beleive is us 3, you may not want to because we're teenagers, but if you want to be mature & get the truthful story, you may have to..if you dont know any of us in order to get said information...why are you here in the first place being rude?? if you really do know us girls personally & quite well, you would be smart enough to know not to judge us because we arent just stereotypical dumb teenagers. we Are intelligent, ppl just make mistakes..thats life.&its how we learn.... which we did learn,thank you "




Christal wrote on Jun 12, 2009 8:58 PM:

" “It was like 11,” when the SUV got stuck, Cope said, “And no one even showed up for an hour and a half.”

and yes this makes me sound whinny
but thats not how I said it
the reporter asked me what time we got stuck
I said alittle bit before 11
then he asked me when help arived
and I said about a hour and a half later "




Christal wrote on Jun 12, 2009 8:54 PM:

" When Jessica left the car she was dangerously close to getting stuck under drift wood. It scared us.
after she made it on to the top, yes we were all fine, then it was just a matter of how to solve this.
Do you all think I dont feel stupid?
I submerged my car in a river where I go camping twice a week on average.
I feel like the biggest moron in the world.
But I am taking responsibilty for this.
most of you are adults, You dont have to cut me down lower than I already feel "




Sarah Keller wrote on Jun 12, 2009 8:53 PM:

" the Only people who have a right to criticize this entire situation is me, jessica & christal, considering we're the only ones who know the Full truth on all this... the article made quite a few glitches, i dont mind that they did though, because Everyone Makes Mistakes. oh but since the people who type up the newspapers arent teens, lets just ignore it, sound good?..im just saying that perhaps you ppl shouldnt jump to conclusions on all this. "




Power Wagon wrote on Jun 12, 2009 12:24 PM:

" Oh lord, this is getting funny. Now we have them upgrading the situation to 'almost dying'! Cue the dramatic 'Caught on Video' music! And the crying and sniveling in here regarding those of us that aren't putting our wrist on our forehead and going on about those poor, poor girls....sheesh! Gimme a break! I live 2 miles away and was one of those that glanced down and saw it. Life or death scenario! GASP!...right... "




to Mr. Mackey wrote on Jun 12, 2009 11:18 AM:

" Will the real "Mr. Mackey" please stand-up...if this is a personal attack be "man" enough to say these things to the family's faces. Oh, wait; bet you're not man at all! No real man would try to wound others when they have gone through such a frightening ordeal. No real man would criticize others in a comment forum. Man? I think not. You are the epitome of what's wrong with our country; lack of real men. We have enough guys; try being a man. "




to the person that wrote to wow wrote on Jun 12, 2009 11:03 AM:

" Firsthand knowledge allows me to state that the girls were not "whining" about not being rescued. They were scared for their lives! You are mis-interpreting her response. Everybody go back to work and leave the girls alone.
And to make a personal attack on someone's spelling in quite immature. "




to wow wrote on Jun 11, 2009 11:14 PM:

" Man...you are quite confused. It's the mentality that whines about how long it took for emergency services to come save them from thier own stupidity that best reflects the 'gimme my check, boy I love Obama' type thinking! Those that point out thier lack of accountability would be the opposite of the modern liberal, victim-loving type. And if anything had happened to them..same thing. It would be the hand-wringing bleeding hearts demanding somebody to blame. The rest of us would simply reflect on the unnecessary tragedy born out of lack-of-thought. But judging from your spelling... "




christal cope wrote on Jun 11, 2009 11:06 PM:

" thank you all for sticking up for me
I know it was stupid
but really all I was doing was trying to help out a friend
and the papers arent telling the whole truth

I did not complain about the time it was taking
I knew I had messed up and that I had to figure a way out
the part that I was upset about was that we had almost died a couple times and people were stopping and taking pictures pointing and laughing and driving off while Im trying to pull jessica out from under abigpileofdriftwood "




WOW wrote on Jun 11, 2009 11:06 PM:

" So I went back up & reread the article, they get stuck at 11, and are stuck in the river for 1.5hrs before anyone shows up, thats what your sayn they are whinning about? I guess that depends on how you read it. I see her as sayn no one at all came around to help them, not sayng it took the rescue team so long to help. It does say someone else called not the girls. Learn to read between the lines, not what you want to hear. "




wow wrote on Jun 11, 2009 9:04 PM:

" Kids cant put 2 setences together & single parent homes? What does that have to do with anything. You must know these girls? Or are you puting every teen who does something wrong in that catagory? I would hate to live your life closed mind & hatred. I bet you walked up hill both ways to school & work. Probably the first to complain about having to stand in line & wait your turn, then yell at the person at the counter for your problem that they had nothing to do with. Grow up "




wow wrote on Jun 11, 2009 8:42 PM:

" Christal the first thing you need to do is get your seats out then take out the carpet. Or cut the carpet out. unplug all electrical connectors. dry everything fast. If you have full coverage and want to find out if they think the truck is totaled give them a call first. if not the faster you get the water out the better it will be.
I work for a dealership & adults that make good money do the same thing all summer. Enjoy your life dont worry bout the idiots. "




wow wrote on Jun 11, 2009 8:23 PM:

" To all the teens reading this. As people get older we loose all memory of what our parents said when we were dumb.
Oh wait I remember! They said all the same things these "Im so much better than you" people are sayn -idiots!
Now you have discovered how to get stuck in the river. Bet you dont do that again. Next time get a bigger truck. "




wow wrote on Jun 11, 2009 8:08 PM:

" I think most of you just like the attention you are getting from being negative.
"oh look the people are responding to my coments" Bet you voted for Obama.
dont worry your check will be in soon.
Im guessing none of you ever were kids nor did anything wrong.
Heaven forbid anything actually happen to one of them, then you would want someone to pay. Oh wait then you would blame the parents. I don't believe anyone called a parent to come save them. People die from not getting help all the time. Idiots! "




Lee wrote on Jun 11, 2009 8:01 PM:

" right on, had some fun, got stuck and others tried to help..in the end they used the resources that are/ there taxes pay for..not bad "




wow wrote on Jun 11, 2009 7:39 PM:

" Oh no they where out having fun and got stuck so lets all gang up on them and throw stones. I dint read that anyone of them was drunk nor doing drugs. (since im sure most of you have already thought that)
They are idiots & want it all?
Where did that come from? The girl calls work to say she was going to be late then still goes in? That says a lot to me.
Bet most of you have nothing better to do but wait for your free check "




Power Wagon wrote on Jun 11, 2009 6:31 PM:

" cont'd..
In our day there was this thing called 'accountability' that our parents taught us wherein you realize and own up to your mistakes and take full responsibility for your actions. Kind of a wierd concept for you young kids, huh? "




Power Wagon wrote on Jun 11, 2009 6:30 PM:

" Nah. No drugs here. Thank god I wasn't raised by lazy butt parents. And if I wanted to do that crap or play 'D&D' I wouldn't have had time anyway...to much work to do when I got home. Not like today where it's all video games and television. And it's not the 'doing something stupid' that bothers us (we've all been there and done that)..it's the whining about how long it took for somebody else to fix your problem that reflects your generation the best. "




remove the plank from your own eye wrote on Jun 11, 2009 5:29 PM:

" To those of you, especially adults, who feel they have to belittle the girls in this situation, you make me sick! We have all been teenagers and done things that were stupid; we learned from them and grew up. None of you know the whole story or the true story. Go get a life and leave the teenagers alone. Ever think you're part of the problem? Of course not, then you'd have to take action and be part of the solution. "




AlaskanGuy wrote on Jun 11, 2009 5:24 PM:

" How easily do people forget about what they were like when they were kids. He who has no sin can cast the first stone. "




Another teen wrote on Jun 11, 2009 5:22 PM:

" (Cont) I am 18 and I am holding down 2 jobs, every so called immature teenager that I know eather has a good job or is going to school to advance in their lifes, to say that we are all self centered immature teenagers shows how little you know about todays life styles.

So before you judge someone again, figure out what is really going on. "




jessica and sarah wrote on Jun 11, 2009 5:20 PM:

" And we did call a tow truck. we dont know who called the emergency respons team. thank you to the people who didnt clump us into the sterotypical category of typical "dumb and irresponsible teenagers" we just went out for some good ol' fashion camping, we just ran into a problem.
Thank you for your understanding
Love, Jessica Entsminger and Sarah keller. "The stupid teens" "




Another teen wrote on Jun 11, 2009 5:19 PM:

" Power Wagon, you say we don't expect to have to work for our cash? We have JOBS we are TEENS when you were a teen you sat around all day doing drugs and not working at all, before you talk about our lack of initiative you should rethink what you did while you were our age, or were you one of those D&D kids?

The fact that we don't think before we act is just how we are, and how all teens have ever been, we are not spoiled we earn what we have. I'm a teen (cont) "




Jessica and Sarah wrote on Jun 11, 2009 5:13 PM:

" Actually, what happend is we were all camping together and the tide rose in the morning. we needed to get out some how, we were following the boys out and they got stuck in the river, so being the kind hearted teenage girls we are. we tried to find another way out, but guess what we got stuck people make mistakes its not us being dumb silly girls everyone makes mistakes. there is no reason to be rude about this. And we are not the only ones to cross that river, many people do it to go camping. "




Aby wrote on Jun 11, 2009 4:57 PM:

" Hahahah jessica you rock :) Dammn teens.
We do stupid stuff,but what the heck else is there to do in the valley? Atleast they weren't smoking meth! "




Mr. Mackey wrote on Jun 11, 2009 4:07 PM:

" Most teens today can't put two sentences together and think they know it all. Couple that with living in a single parent household and attending government indoctrination centers, what do you expect? They're lucky to be alive. Enough said, MmKay. "




Power Wagon wrote on Jun 11, 2009 2:39 PM:

" Try to run a contracting company or your own business these days and get decent help from this generation. They all think they deserve thier paychecks and if they feel up to it, they might do some work (which is unfair to expect of them, naturally).
The '60s generation being worse than todays? Hardly. That was the beginning a truly selfish mindset. Drugs, etc. But it never rose above that or got any better. All you have to do is watch TV or look around to see that. These kids today don't have anything to brag about. Whining, sniveling, lazy... "




khbalaska wrote on Jun 11, 2009 1:27 PM:

" to A Teen - careful. Your stereotyping of "our" generation comes awfully close to what you accuse the other posters of doing... "




to a teen wrote on Jun 11, 2009 1:10 PM:

" YES! Exactly! Those people are you're slamming are YOUR PARENTS! And thanks to that 'me first' generation, they've churned out kids like you! Rotten, spoiled and self-centered! I work in a high-volume call center and we groan every time we get a call from somebody born in the '80s...they're typically the nastiest, "nothing-is-my-fault, you-owe-me" people we deal with! And since that's the result of crappy parenting, you just supported that point! "




longtimevalleyRES wrote on Jun 11, 2009 12:57 PM:

" You can tell alot these old folks foregot whats its like to be a teen, I think its kinda cool these kids were out and about and not on computer waisting away..
most of you folks complaining about this need to get a lfe, go out and play outside..
OOH you foregot how fun it is and sometimes you make a mistake..isn't that growing up..
I agree, so most of these old folks ruined things for younger generation, they were nerds so no one can fun now.. "




takeiteasy wrote on Jun 11, 2009 12:54 PM:

" I've seen(been) dumber. Her last statement "I've got to pay for this" - good for her. Live and Learn or Don't and Don't. "




unknown wrote on Jun 11, 2009 12:40 PM:

" To make it known, Cope is of 18 years of age, which makes her a legal adult. "Calling Daddy about insurance" makes no sense considering there'd be no need. Why can't you people just face the fact that things happen? Arguing about your 'profound' opinions makes you a a mere nuisance. I think your generation of teenagers did no better than this. Keep that in mind. "




A Teen wrote on Jun 11, 2009 11:18 AM:

" Yes, be critical of teenagers. Because the generation before us was such a GREAT example of all the perfect ways to be a teen. Thanks for all your experimentation with now popular drugs and the pandemic of new STIs during your teen years. I feel much more safe to know that your generation proceeded mine. Don't go stereotyping todays teens, for your generation's stereotypes fall much deeper in to an abysmal tank than ours ever will. "




to iv wrote on Jun 11, 2009 11:07 AM:

" Because it's becoming increasingly more common for today's kids to do stupid crap and then blame everybody else for it. Back before parents were lazy and raising spoiled, self-centered brats like a good deal (but not all) of today's teen-agers. "




iv wrote on Jun 11, 2009 10:48 AM:

" Why do people have to be so critical of the teens here. Yes, they made a stupid mistake. I'm sure everybody knows that. I'm also sure that they learned a lesson and have grown from the experience. I'm also sure that lots of other teens reading this article won't make the same mistake. "




Umm not just todays teens wrote on Jun 11, 2009 10:27 AM:

" Well to be fair, it's pretty typical teenage behavior for all times. Thrill seeking in the outdoors. At least they weren't out vandalizing. Now that would be today's typical teenage behavior! "




Robbie wrote on Jun 11, 2009 1:28 AM:

" Man those two boys sound like their a couple of trouble makers, and cracking jokes about possible deaths... makes me sick. "




oh my wrote on Jun 10, 2009 10:04 PM:

" oh my goodness..... can we say ''think twice''? luckily no one was hurt or killed, but the logic of teens these days.... yikes. "




abnak wrote on Jun 10, 2009 9:46 PM:

" Wow, still really hard to fix stupid!!!!! "




Captian Obvious wrote on Jun 10, 2009 7:29 PM:

" Yeah why call a tow truck when you can get emergency responders to show up...what was the energency anyhow? Was Daddy's truck in danger? Stupid kids playing on the river, I say let em explain to Daddy or their insurance what happened to their ride. Time to grow up lil people and use your brains. "




Power Wagon wrote on Jun 10, 2009 6:46 PM:

" Typical, typical, typical today's teen's. "Nobody showed up for an hour and a half"! WAHHHH!!! No concept that if they hadn't been doing something stupid in the first place, they wouldn't have been in that situation. Not to mention that several people had to work to fix the results of thier dumb stunt. Nope....just all about how inconvienced she was and we all didn't jump fast enough for her. Better if little girls like this didn't have a car or a driver's license. "




AKVoter wrote on Jun 10, 2009 6:26 PM:

" Why? Vehicles don't need to be on this river period. Anywhere without rules posted is fair game up here, most rebellious state I've ever lived in. It's like people can't wait to destroy things or live by laws and care about civility. There is so much wasteful spending to clear our rivers of junk cars and trash, this beautiful state gets no respect. How can we allow this disrespect? can we not stop this abusive behavior? Keep your vehicles out of our rivers! "




jp wrote on Jun 10, 2009 5:03 PM:

" like, there was this road, but it was kind of wet, and like, i went like huh, and she went like huh, so we went, and then , know somethin? it wasn't a road at all, like it was like a water something! and there you have it, and i tried to like use my cell phone, but like it wouldn't work ( you think it's the phone company's fault, and they'll give me a new one for free?)and then the rescuer guys came along and saved our lives from the evil watery river monster! "




just wondering... wrote on Jun 10, 2009 4:54 PM:

" ...where were these girl's brains??? They're lucky to be alive. How stupid. If the boys needed rescuing, I'm sure they could have called for themselves. Why didn't the girls just call the boys?? They wanted to look hot, that's why. Darwin Award!!! "