MEA parts ways with Carmony

By ANDREW WELLNER
Frontiersman
Published on Thursday, June 18, 2009 6:41 PM AKDT

    PALMER — Wayne Carmony has been removed from his position as general manager of the Matanuska Electric Association.

    In a 5-2 vote early Tuesday afternoon, the co-op’s board of directors decided to put Carmony on immediate paid leave and to begin the process of terminating him. Spokeswoman Lorali Carter said after the meeting that, for now, the head of the co-op will be Assistant General Manger Donald Zoerb.

    Carmony had little to say in the parking lot as the meeting continued inside.

    “I haven’t had a lot of time to think about it,” he said. “It’s pretty disappointing.”

    He shared a letter the board had given him saying, in essence, that negotiations had broken down, that the board would not accept an offer Carmony had made. The letter also said the board had told Carmony previously that if they couldn’t reach an agreement on severance pay and a termination without cause that the board would move to terminate him with cause.

    At the meeting, the board exercised that option, moving to fire the general manager with cause. What that cause was, though, was not made public.

    In April, the board seemingly began the process of firing Carmony. Since then, the consensus among MEA watchers was that the process was dragging on because the board was seeking a way to avoid paying Carmony the full amount of the severance pay detailed in his contract.

    Comments from at least one board member Tuesday seemed to bear that out.

    “I object in the most strenuous way,” said board member Larry DeVilbiss when the motion was made to fire Carmony. “If we can’t pay a man what a man is due then we pay the consequences.”

    Carmony’s contract has not been made public. During his tenure it was kept under lock and key at the utility.

    But the board’s action Tuesday left no doubt that Carmony’s time there is over. After moving to suspend him with pay, board member Peter Burchell proposed a successful motion to have Carmony hand over his keys and leave the building and to direct staff to secure his office and his computer.

David Glines and DeVilbiss voted against termination. Lois Lester, Kit Jones, Katie Hurley, Janet Kincaid and Burchell voted in favor.

Comments

40 comment(s)

    why wrote on Jun 23, 2009 6:01 PM:

    " why do we pay mea to get electricity from cea?

    the middle man dealr needs to go for sure.

    ridiculous. think of all of the overhead we coule eliminate...

    ...and headaches too. "

    brvak wrote on Jun 22, 2009 12:34 PM:

    " Would it be the worst thing to happen if CEA bougth MEA? To keep the employees, add the customers, and manage it from Anchorage? MEA just buys the power and adds a service charge. Wouldn't it be more efficient to cut out the middle man? Would it provide Eagle River with more consistent service? Would it be easier to negotiate for large power producing projects as one entity? Would it be more efficient and "greener"? "

    Multiple safety issues at MEA wrote on Jun 22, 2009 10:41 AM:

    " Several times in the last few months a lineman has had a near miss. Any of which could have killed them. This needs to be dealt with. This comes from poor dispatching and I hope that the new manager looks at the qualifications of the people at MEA that deal with the lives of our lineman. We need qualified people in dispatch. Not sure that is the case at this time. Recently one dispatch error zapped a pole and started a fire. That could have killed anyone or started a forest fire. "

    I expect the board members to meet and hire a new general manager wrote on Jun 22, 2009 10:36 AM:

    " We voted for these board members and I expect them to take the time and choose well when it comes to a new General Manager. Change will still be in the air at MEA once a new manager is hired. That person will need trustworthy employees that will be loyal to the company and the new management. The last thing the new manager will need is someone who will undermine them, so we'll see who stays and who goes. Still need adjustments to the bid process and who on the inside chooses. Conflicts still exist. "

    Get Educated wrote on Jun 21, 2009 9:32 PM:

    " I can't believe the deal some people are trying to make about the bylaws not allowing Lester to be on the board any more. Think about it.... if a bylaw was voted for that unseated Lester and at the exact same time the members voter for her how can anyone say that Lester is suppose to be off the board. Members clearly voted for her and with that said they want her on the board. I think it is illogical to assume that they also want her off the board. Dennis O think before you speak. "

    Dennis O alter ego wrote on Jun 21, 2009 6:33 PM:

    " This board has the individual personal strength to stand up the the insiders that controlled <EA administration. Only one more yet to get rid of? Lets see if they will follow thru with PR or performance. We don't need a mouth piece to build the new power plant. Way to go and about time. "

    Dennis O. wrote on Jun 21, 2009 3:14 PM:

    " To the other alleged Dennis O. ... or maybe you're the fraud. Or maybe, just maybe, there is more than one person who could rightfully sign his name "Dennis O"? "

    Ratepayer wrote on Jun 21, 2009 9:56 AM:

    " Thanks to Mr Carmony for your services. You were compensated well and now your gone! It has been a turbulent litigation filled few years. So it is no surprise your confrontational style is seen in your departure as well. What really needs to come to light is the shenanigans and lawsuits MEA has had to deal with on your watch. Now the burden is on his shoulders to explain all and in the light odf a judge and the public. I am sure more troublemaking is in store Congrats to the board members that have stood up for ratepayers "

    Dennis O. wrote on Jun 21, 2009 7:37 AM:

    " I did not write the last post under my name complimenting the corrupt board. Some whining, sniveling, immature, crybaby used my name and commited a fraud against the rest of you. Now, do the rest of you finally understand the childish nature of those who support this current corrupt board? They are all cowards who are afraid to use their true identity. "

    Dennis O. wrote on Jun 20, 2009 8:50 PM:

    " Good job board. I know this hasn't been easy, but it has been necessary. Now hopefully we can move forward together to a more stable MEA and a greener future. "

    Oops wrote on Jun 20, 2009 11:00 AM:

    " Janet and Katie were out shopping for a new CEO Friday night in Anchorage, guess Burchell couldn't make it. Wonder who they'll get, where did they hang? what are they offering? "

    Get Educated wrote on Jun 20, 2009 8:33 AM:

    " In response to MEA COOP OWNER comment on June 17th. WOAH... That comment is actually very laughable. So you are saying Carmony is the only one who can run a utility. With out him our power will literally go out and if we have it at all our rates will be through the roof. This is seriously one of the most uneducated things I have ever heard anyone say. If you don't have any real information and you are just going to babble junk like that don't bother. Do some research before you speak. "

    Dennis O. wrote on Jun 20, 2009 8:06 AM:

    " So, utilitywatcher, (Jim) are you justifying current secret meetings simply by pointing to other past secret meetings? In your world, secret meetings are OK, as long as it is YOUR guys having them? What a hypocrite. No, we are not going to back off on anything. 3 terms and you are out. Lester is NOT legally on the board and is making every meeting a violation of the new bylaws. Yes, they are in effect today. No more making up new rules to fit your agenda. "

    Naive MEA Board wrote on Jun 18, 2009 8:37 AM:

    " MEA Board continues nonsense course. They should fire anyone they want, but why set MEA up for lawsuits? And keeping the bootlicker? How long? Don Zoerb is just a pitiful, pathetic figure in all this. Who is the Board going to turn to? Joe Griffith, the CEA manager who led Chugach into bankruptcy? At least he knows what the Board really wants for MEA. This looks like the work of the dreamy environmentalists and the incompetent (Lois Lester). Attorney Robin Brena will get richer off the naive MEA Board. "

    Another MEA ratepayer wrote on Jun 17, 2009 11:00 PM:

    " Thank you board members. It has been a long time coming - at least ten years in my book. Now you can hire someone who is willing to listen to the membership, work constructively with the other rail belt utilities, and seriously consider all the options available to meet our growing power needs. This time the contract needs to be public. No more secrets. The members have a right to know what we're paying, just like other cooperative members in the state do. "

    MEA Ratepayer wrote on Jun 17, 2009 8:38 PM:

    " Great job MEA Board - this was long overdue. Now focus on NOT building generation - why - CEA's rates are lower than ours. Building new generation will only cost us more money! Don't build!! "

    utilitywatcher wrote on Jun 17, 2009 6:51 PM:

    " Are you kidding me with the secret, closed-door meeting accusations. ALL the meetings for the first ten years under Carmony were held secretly. The regular meeting was just for show. Often, if you attended, you could tell that the whole thing was scripted. So, give us all a big break and back off on that one. "

    To Joey B. wrote on Jun 17, 2009 4:38 PM:

    " I guess according to your analogy that would make Don Zoerb , Nikita Khrushchev, which is by the way closer to reality. Most of those who post here have no clue, just like the current board members. The lights won't go out in 2015, we'll just pay more. The lawsuits will continue. Who knows, maybe MEA will be called Carmony and Kelly Electric. "

    Joey Brockhouse wrote on Jun 17, 2009 2:16 PM:

    " The standard way to do business is the board is in charge and the "employees" do what they are told. It's good to see that the board is finally working in the way it is suppose to work. If the majority of members have problems with the current board then we can vote them out. The foolish way in which MEA has been run looks more like communism with Carmony as Lenin and Lee Jordan as Stalin during his lowlife flunky years. Now the board has the freedom to run the utility as it was meant to be run, "

    offsoapstone wrote on Jun 17, 2009 1:00 PM:

    " Folks your bill is going to go up no matter who runs or doesn't run MEA so get over it. Carmony and his boys needed to go a long time ago. As for the board their not much better than carmony and his gang and some of them won't be around for long either. If your feed up with MEA and all the BS then think about wind turbines and get off the grid as much as you can. "

    eagleeye wrote on Jun 17, 2009 12:47 PM:

    " Carmony's original contract allowed him to override board decisions if he felt it was in the "best interest of the utility." Carmony must have graduated from the Hugo Chavez school of dictatorship. Now that all but 2 of Carmony's bootlick boardmembers have gone the truth is coming out. The lawsuits might reveal some pretty interesting stuff. I look forward to the details that will be brought out in court! "

    raven wrote on Jun 17, 2009 11:24 AM:

    " Dear Wondering--

    The lights ain't gonna go out in 2015 or any other time. You got sucked into Carmony's scare tactics so he could runa a sweetheart coal deal under the table. It looks like the new board is a bit slow, but smart enough to get the job done for all of us. "

    heartland wrote on Jun 17, 2009 11:19 AM:

    " Let's see what a new manager can do. Most any capable manager should be able to provide better, more efficient more open utility. Carmony will be a distant bad memory soon. "

    Ratepayer. wrote on Jun 17, 2009 10:08 AM:

    " When is this crap going to end! Secret contracts and severance pay. Give me a break! Don't let the door hit ya in the backside on your way out, Carmony! Hey Board, the next time around make the entire contract public. We the ratepayers should know everything in there. No surprises. And what's with DeVilbiss and Glines? Wise up boys or your stay will be short. "

    MEA COOP OWNER wrote on Jun 17, 2009 10:06 AM:

    " For all of you morons that believe that lie that removing Mr. Carmony is a a GOOD THING, I urge you to start rearranging your budgets now!!!! Oh, and when your lights go out, and your power won't come back on....you'll only have your pathetic little selves to blame and your newly formed "board." Harder times are upon us, ya'll just screwed yourselves. Happy now? "

    heartland wrote on Jun 17, 2009 9:54 AM:

    " Congrats to the MEA board. Now all the years of endless and frivolous lawsuits (more than any Alaska utility) generated by Carmony and the boys will be over. After the dust settles MEA members will most likely see important cost savings due to the reduced number of lawsuits, an honest resource plan for the future and serious consideration of renewables that will have predictable costs. Carmony was the main problem at MEA that kept all these things from happening. Hope they find a good manager. "

    Insider wrote on Jun 17, 2009 9:18 AM:

    " Morale at MEA is low, employees are scared of loosing their jobs, it will sink lower now that Don "The Tyrant" Zoerb has been appointed czar. The incompetence of the new board will show up in our electric bills for years to come. Lawsuits will become the norm. "

    ReadyKilowatt wrote on Jun 17, 2009 9:01 AM:

    " Thank you MEA BOD for removing Mr. Carmony. For years we have been hearing how Mr. Carmony & his key employees have been trying to keep rates low. Now that they are gone, they are sueing MEA. In reality, they were not concerned about MEA only their own self interest. If they really cared about MEA they would drop the lawsuits and move on with their lives. "

    BYE BYE Good old boys wrote on Jun 17, 2009 8:33 AM:

    " The good old boy school is a failing in the valley. THANK GOODNESS and again to you Mr overpaid managers, good riddance. "

    MEA Sick of. wrote on Jun 17, 2009 8:00 AM:

    " Because of the hatefulness , and sneaky, illegal closed door board members, they will now cost MEA members over a million in back pay.
    I want to know the cost of attorney fees we are going to be charged for. I hope that MEA will be investigated. I am sick of all of the personal vendettas from Janet, Lois, Katie, and Kit, I am sick of all of their closed door practices. I have even seen Janet discussing private business at a funeral for goodness sakes. Get rid of them!!! "

    Just another MEA ratepayer wrote on Jun 17, 2009 2:47 AM:

    " I am so grateful to live to see the day that Carmony got his walking papers. His presence was very much against the best interests of MEA, the MEA ratepayers, and every citizen of the Valley.

    He won't be missed by most of us. I offer my deepest thanks to those who voted him off the payroll at MEA. Thank you. Thank you. A million times, thank you!

    Keep up the good work MEA board! Well done! "

    JERRY FLETCHER wrote on Jun 16, 2009 10:40 PM:

    " GOOD BYE, FAREWELL, ADIOS, SO LONG GOOD RIDDENCE. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE 14 YEARS AGO. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, THE CURRENT BOARD IS CLEANING HOUSE WE ALL KNOW THERE ARE MORE THAT NEED TO GO. LETS HIRE SOME HONEST AND COMPETANT PEOPLE FOR A CHANGE. NOW WAYNE CAN RUN FOR POLITICS, WITH HIS BACKGROUND AND ATTITUDE TOWARDS THE WORKING PEOPLE HE IS SURE TO BE A SHOE IN FOR A OFFICE IN MEXICO OR VENEZUALA. "

    Wondering wrote on Jun 16, 2009 10:26 PM:

    " Remember today, consumers, when in 2015, your lights go out and stay out, because THE CURRENT BOARD MAJORITY found it too hard and too burdensome to do their jobs and provide for the future,;they will instead have lined their pockets at our expense for their many unnecessary board meetings and fees, all while spewing their venom about those few in MEA's employment who do care about their rule in providing electricity for the masses at reasonable rates. To those MEA employees, keep the faith, do your best and keep your heads down, until reason surfaces again. "

    bob wrote on Jun 16, 2009 6:30 PM:

    " Carmony's contract was always under lock and key so nobody could see what he earned or all his power. This is wrong-it's a coop not a kingdom for pete's sake. It's time the board stopped rubber stamping Wayne's World and showed him the door. Good job, board and keep it up-there are more to go. "

    Alaskan wrote on Jun 16, 2009 6:12 PM:

    " If we paid his what he is worth...that would be -0- Larry! I have to wonder what bonds him so tightly to the two fired employees...maybe they have a few secrets and payouts they are protecting?? Yeah, Wayne pay it to the lawyer and take your chances, lets see how long it takes to go thru court. "

    Rob wrote on Jun 16, 2009 5:51 PM:

    " Katy. MEA has gone from one corrupt board to an even more corrupt board and they are exploiting the meeting per-diem and milking it for all it's worth. There are actually only 6 legitimate members of the board. They are wagering a political vendetta like those seen only in places like Chicago during prohibition. We will likely see MEA taken over by the Feds during the investigation. "

    Carmony Supporter wrote on Jun 16, 2009 5:03 PM:

    " To Katy Corbin.... What is going on is we are getting a royal screw job by the Friends of Mat-Su via the schmucks we have as board members less DeVilbiss and Glines! Katie Hurley can't even remember where she is half the time, Kincaid has a personal agenda, Burchell is just an well, this is public so I can't go there, and Lois and Kit are just a bunch of puppets! What a joke! Hang on to your wallets folks! "

    Wade T. wrote on Jun 16, 2009 4:21 PM:

    " Well get ready for the big push to merge with CHUGACH ELECTRIC, first they will hirer a Chugach Electric man for the GM position after that it's all over. "

    MEA ratepayer wrote on Jun 16, 2009 3:44 PM:

    " Wow. Great news. Good work board. "

    Katy Corbin wrote on Jun 16, 2009 3:22 PM:

    " If ever thing is above board why was his contract not put out to the public. This tells me they are trying to hide something. I have been a member over 30 years what is going on? "

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