Rails may be lifted from downtown Palmer

BY ANDREW WELLNER
Frontiersman
Published on Thursday, July 2, 2009 8:42 PM AKDT

PALMER — The city council is seeking the authority to rip out downtown’s train tracks but won’t do it without first asking its residents.

According to Sara Jansen, special assistant with the city of Palmer, the council voted Tuesday to send a resolution to the Alaska Railroad Corporation asking for management of the tracks.

She said the council has heard some community members say that there hasn’t been enough public process on the issue and is therefore going to proceed cautiously with the plan.

“Before any tracks can be removed, (it) has to approved by the city council and there has to be two public meetings,” she said.

Removing the tracks is one piece of the city’s overall Urban Revitalization Project. The tracks are unused and would need significant repair to allow regular train service. The resolution passed Tuesday cites the revitalization project as one reason for asking for the authority. The others include:

• Providing better access for seniors, strollers and wheelchairs to downtown

• Ending traffic back-ups caused by school buses and trucks required to stop at the tracks

• Creating more space for free parking

• Creating more park space 

• Making room for community gardens and recreational activities

• Removing impediments to east-west traffic

• Lowering the grade in the area and “lessening the visual division of the downtown corridor”

At least one councilman opposed the resolution. Richard Best said all the revitalization plan documents he’d seen included leaving the tracks intact.

“My biggest complaint was that I felt that the public had input in the original Downtown Revitalization Plan,” he said.

Taking out the railroad tracks, in his view, goes against what the public signed off on in the first place. He also sees the council, with this move, being hasty. He chalks up their haste to the potential of landing federal stimulus money to help with the revitalization.

Palmer City Manager Bill Allen, “said that the urban revitalization plan with the railroad track in place would not meet the (stimulus funding) criteria,” Best said.

The revitalization plan includes an as-yet conceptual plan to link downtown to the Alaska State Fair with a pedestrian walkway that would run from the fairgrounds to Eagle Street. There’s talk of linking that trail into the Crevasse-Morraine trail system as well and making a Palmer greenbelt in the process. The greenbelt plans, though, are more of a long-term picture. In the short term, the ball is in the railroad’s court.

“Next week I’ll be forwarding this on to the senior management at the railroad and asking them to forward it on to their board of directors,” Jansen said of Tuesday’s resolution.

According to the railroad’s Web site, the next board of directors’ meeting is July 28 at the corporation’s Anchorage headquarters. Jansen said she hopes to get the matter on the board’s agenda for that meeting.

Best said he expects the council’s plan will likely be adopted, as evidenced by testimony from the railroad at Tuesday’s meeting.

“The railroad has full intention of doing whatever it is that the city requests,” Best said, summing up that testimony.

Comments

25 comment(s)

    Keep the tracks wrote on Jul 14, 2009 5:03 PM:

    " Build the friggin' park around the tracks and the depot and the trees that are already there. Why do we have to tear everything out all the time? Whatever happened to integrity of design?

    Surely we can find more important things to spend money on than in tearing things out, and in making changes that most people in Palmer don't even want?

    We can make improvements without destorying what we already have. "

    offsoapstone wrote on Jul 8, 2009 10:49 AM:

    " JP i don't know what kind of hole you crawled out of but it is your hole. Palmer will never become the Valley's social disease Wasilla already has the title. At least Palmer has tried to plan its growth. If the tracks are never to be used again then rip them up. Or the city of Palmer should use them to ferry fair goers to and from the fair. Theres good and bad in that idea. Again if not used ripem up and make a park strip. Palmer is going to grow. "

    brvak wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:35 AM:

    " I find the torn up streets in Palmer so comforting. The stretch in front of the depot reminds me of the Palmer of my youth. Coal cinders, the smell of the Mat-Maid creamery. Leaving the Center Theatre all charged up from the films!
    Wouldn't it be wonderful if all the pavement was gone? No sidewalks, move the fair back into town, turn the Borough building into a charter school....Sarcasm folks. It's nice to think about the old days but don't be afraid to move on. "

    jp wrote on Jul 7, 2009 7:53 AM:

    " i think they should level all of Palmer, pave the whole area,put in a mega Wal*Mart, a Target, a super factory outlet mall, a Costco, a Sam's Club, Oh! and wait, 50 or 60 Starbucks foo-foo Latte houses. get rid of all the mom and pops businesses.

    that is what you new palmerians want , isn't it?
    You people make me want to vomit! "

    Some not all wrote on Jul 7, 2009 5:58 AM:

    " Compromise: Tear up the tracks along the Friday Fling parking lot. Leave the tracks up to the Pioneer's Home for the X-mas train. Leave 50-100 yards of track in front of the depot for historical purposes. "

    Sometimes wrote on Jul 5, 2009 6:57 PM:

    " folks just don't know what they are talking about. El Guapo: The 1964 earthquake made sure that no more coal trains can run from Jonesville to Palmer. Personally, I'd rather have a coal train come through once a week than 40 coal trucks a day. Leaving just a short stretch of historical tracks is the beginning for Palmer to become one of those faux touristy towns. Let's b real now, please? "

    El Guapo wrote on Jul 5, 2009 9:08 AM:

    " No matter what the City of Palmer does, no matter how much Park and Trail they create by tearing out any Railroad tracks, The Alaska Railroad can come back at ANY TIME, reclaim the right of way, and lay down any track that they want. And then we can have long, slow coal trains running right thru the center of town at all hours - instead of coal trucks using Trunk Rd to bypass Palmer.
    Leave the historical tracks at the Depot and across from the VIsitor Center, but lets use the rest for Parks and Trails. "

    El Guapo wrote on Jul 5, 2009 9:01 AM:

    " The Railroad will not be sending any more trains to downtown Palmer - they're liable if the train derails. It would cost over a Million $ to repair the tracks and they won't spend that kind of money for One Christmas Train a year. And it's the same reason that the Railroad will not lay any track to Sutton for Coal - it's too expensive. If someone privately wants to pay for the upgrade, great ... but it ain't gonna happen. "

    To Circus Today.. wrote on Jul 4, 2009 11:58 PM:

    " An Agnew-Beck Plan is the kiss of death for the tracks. Those in power at the City will get what they want and pay for no matter how many open houses and one-on-one discussions they're going to have. The heck with the pepole that care. Been there, done that! Don't trust'em. "

    Circus todayCircus everyday wrote on Jul 4, 2009 9:03 PM:

    " The Palmer drama machine never seems to wind down. A couple of years ago the powers that be wanted a maximum security mega prison that would have negatively impacted the quality of life in Palmer forever. Then they wanted to annex territory all the way to the new hospital and north to 49th.street. This was to extract taxes from all the "new residents" who would receive no benefits only incrased expenses and regulation. Palmer has retained the firm Agnew-Beck to revive the failed annexation proposal again in 2009 stealthily under the radar so be aware.The tracks? More fun and games. "

    Palmer res. wrote on Jul 4, 2009 12:28 PM:

    " No, it's not time to rip out the tracks, don't you people know that this is a part of palmer's personality. One of the reasons we love palmer is because of the history, and that the town is not to big. You people worry about Little petty things
    "Leave Palmer alone" "

    cottonwood49 wrote on Jul 4, 2009 10:01 AM:

    " I was hoping to bring coal in from Sutton using double semi trailers--about 50-60 trucks a day rolling thru Palmer. "

    Brittany wrote on Jul 4, 2009 2:26 AM:

    " Just leave the rails alone ..we will be needing coals soon! "

    Sometimes wrote on Jul 4, 2009 12:52 AM:

    " it's just as well not to mess with history and let things be. We are the NOW generation and appreciate the history that was left to us. Maybe Mr. Allen should go North to the Future and upset the fabric of other towns instead of trying to make Palmer into something it doesn't want to be. "

    give it a break wrote on Jul 4, 2009 12:25 AM:

    " It's time to rip the tracks up, to keep them in for one time a year for a Christmas train is stupid, and no one is going to bring coal down from Sutton, the railroad tracks didn't last long when they did it before. Thet could make it a nice area for watching people with benches and sidewalks, plant a few trees it would really look nice. As for going all the way to Eagle St to the Fairgrounds that is kind of reaching, just make it a nice place to sit and look around, like a park. "

    brvak wrote on Jul 3, 2009 8:28 PM:

    " Rip them up. Come up with a use for the Greenbelt for the 7 months a year it's under ice and snow. Call it an Icebelt plan.The Colony Christmas train will have to stop at the Senior center. The Industrial center still uses the tracks to deliver goods so I don't believe all the way out to the Fairgrounds is feasible. "

    Keep them wrote on Jul 3, 2009 6:43 PM:

    " Don't take up the rails. How is the Christmas train going to get into town? Or do you plan to make the folks walk in the snow & cold all the way from the fairgrounds?

    And, yes, I can see us rebuilding the line to Sutton for coal VERY soon.

    The rails add charm to the downtown area. A school bus doesn't stop that long to cause it to become off schedule. What a farce. "

    save the tracks wrote on Jul 3, 2009 4:44 PM:

    " The railroad tracks is PART of palmer, and the history, and what makes it palmer. The tracks should NOT be removed, why all of a sudden they should be moved when they have been there for over 50 yrs, and have not been used for years. Why now? The RR tracks adds personality and sets Palmer apart from every other modern, mainstream city. Why dont you spend your money on things more important! "

    Please keep the tracks wrote on Jul 3, 2009 2:50 PM:

    " The tracks are historical, and part of Palmer's charm. I say leave them in, please. Then people in the future can say, thank you for having the wisdom to leave well enough alone.

    The old railroad depot is a useful and unique community meeting place, and the tracks give it context and authenticity. Build a park, if you like, but please leave the tracks and depot in place.

    It would be far better to offer more handicapped parking places, and to erect a removable but safe ramp for wheelchair crossing. Please leave the tracks alone! "

    Curious wrote on Jul 3, 2009 10:52 AM:

    " For those of you folks commenting on re useing the rail line to bring coal from Sutton, what is the basis of your information? Have you seen the easment between Sutton and Palmer? The cost to upgrade the line to carry a train would make the coal it shipped 10 times what it was actually worth. Tear up the tracks and let the town grow in to the future. If we do not have the gumption to let go of the past, our kids will pay double in the future to do it. "

    P Planner wrote on Jul 3, 2009 8:29 AM:

    " The School Bus must stop. That is why they want to remove the tracks. It slows the schedule. The tracks are part of the city history. We will be moving coal thru downtown soon. "

    cottonwood49 wrote on Jul 3, 2009 8:05 AM:

    " This a great idea, the RR tracks are obsolete and unused. Rip-em out. "

    Pro Greenbelt. wrote on Jul 2, 2009 11:09 PM:

    " Creating a large Park Strip in downtown Palmer and all the way to the Fair Grounds is a great idea. The tracks are ugly and useless. If the railroad corporation allows it and the City Council approves it. This will be something that our kids kids will look back on and say, boy those City Councilmen were very Wise Men. "

    Rusty wrote on Jul 2, 2009 10:58 PM:

    " Leave the tracks, we are going to need them to run to Sutton so we can bring coal into town for heat in the very near future. "

    LJ wrote on Jul 2, 2009 9:51 PM:

    " Downtown Palmer is so quaint and charming,I love living here and the tracks are a reminder of the history of another time.I enjoy stepping over the tracks while on walks..leave them be..:) "

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