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M.E. wrote on Aug 26, 2009 7:20 PM:

" Amazed at the comments here worried about the quality of health care in lieu of those who do not have it getting covered. I guess we know which people will save themselves first if a building was on fire. "




NO GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE Part II wrote on Aug 21, 2009 10:49 PM:

" That also brings me to another point, I have yet to meet a military family who is happy with federal care on base or at a VA hospital. Listen to a military families horror stories of misdiagnoses and waiting times for treatment. Does anyone really believe our care will be any better than our soldiers? Please people think with your brain instead of your heart. We'd love to save the world too, but we likely won't ever do it. There will always be good and bad, you can't fix that no matter what. "




NO GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE wrote on Aug 21, 2009 10:44 PM:

" The government can't run a post office, a dmv, or a school. They've bankrupt medicare and they've bankrupt our country. What makes anyone believe that they are capable of taking over healthcare? I mean seriously I will take the 2.5 years less life expectancy over the option of the government having anything to do with my families health care. I'm willing to pay more to keep them out of my health care. You just wait when you have a heart attack and have to take a number and wait 30-60 days for assistance. "




Palmer Farm wrote on Aug 21, 2009 11:12 AM:

" Where do you dream this stuff up, Joe? Did you and Katie get together and write your own history book? It's one thing to have a difference of opinion, but it goes to a whole new level of wierdness when you ignore or outright change historical record and fact.

Contact CNN and such, Joe: Apparently you need to correct every major economist in the nation that knows otherwise. Oh, better start traveling to schools so you can re-educate all those silly history, government and civics classes too! HA! "




Power Wagon wrote on Aug 21, 2009 9:33 AM:

" That settles it...there is absolutely NO way 'Katie' (or Ed, or whomever that person really is) has an education in ANYTHING, let alone 'history' or 'political science'. Considering everything she said is exactly opposite of the facts. Sorry Katie. Pick your lies better next time. "




Joe from the lower 48 wrote on Aug 21, 2009 7:07 AM:

" Re: Reagan's economic policies
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The Reagan economy was a one-hit wonder. Yes, there was a boom in the mid-1980s, as the economy recovered from a severe recession. But while the rich got much richer, there was little sustained economic improvement for most Americans. By the late 1980s, middle-class incomes were barely higher than they had been a decade before — and the poverty rate had actually risen.

Over all grade- D- an abject failure. If not for star gazing books this clown would have been nothing. "




the proof wrote on Aug 20, 2009 9:41 PM:

" All the proof of your ignorance in your last blog, Katie. Every economist knows (but I guess you know better?) that the economy is almost impossible to be affected within a sittiing President's time, and especially within his first term. Reagan's economic policies are a proven success. Bush Sr. screwed with them slightly, but for the most part they were left alone. Clinton made the fewest changes to economic policy than any other incoming President then foolishly tried to take credit for the boom we got thanks to Reagan. The current crisis is thanks to far more than "Bush". "




sharpie wrote on Aug 20, 2009 4:45 PM:

" Holy moly will you look at that blog! Wow, Joe! I can honestly say I've NEVER seen a post on here so full of absolute lunatic rambling, raving and blathering rhetoric! Sounds like the wierdos with the purple hair I see on TV at the Berkely protests! I guess there are some who would be taken aback by your frothing diatribe, but personally I think it's just funny (and concrete evidence of the loony left!). I especially like the final "President Obama" spit! But I'm sure he'd prefer 'Supreme Party Chairman Commissar/Prophet Obama'! LOL! "




Katie wrote on Aug 20, 2009 4:26 PM:

" Gee, where to start... Reagan's 80's = ME generation. The deregulation big time (all about big business/banking= look where they are now!) and the culture of making a lot of money. Bush Sr - more of the same. Clinton - good God, the epitomy of ME generation, don't you think? But he balanced the budget, so a little fiscal restraint there. Bush II told everyone to keep spending their money, go on vacation, the economy is fine! even though he was rapidly running up the deficit into the trillions to fund his little war... "




Joe from the lower 48 wrote on Aug 20, 2009 3:31 PM:

" Re: Palmer Farm wrote: "Obama and his ilk! Uh-huh...that's it."
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Ilk, -- is a village in Szabolcs-Szatmár-Bereg county, in the Northern Great Plain region of eastern Hungary.

Tort reform works real well and is worth millions of words of hate until,the time comes it`s you in need of the law.I do agree the coffee cup queen and those like her deserve nothing for their ignorance but trying to flop those forms of idiocy in with medical malpractice is ludicrous. Oh, and it`s President Obama FYI. "




Power Wagon wrote on Aug 20, 2009 2:36 PM:

" I'm guessing he's "rolling on the floor laughing his... "etc etc like a maniacal hyena. All the big words and complex (for him) topics, combined with the kool-aid, make him giddy. "




Palmer Farm wrote on Aug 20, 2009 12:57 PM:

" Yeah Joe, the ONLY solution to any issues with our current healthcare system is the one proposed by Obama and his ilk! Uh-huh...that's it. No other alternatives. (People that think like that are what totalitarians dream of.)

And the idea of tort reform and the billions it would save every year in costs to the medical industry (lower insurance for doctors, etc) doesn't make sense to you, does it? Nope! Gotta be Obamacare or nothing!

Sheesh....no wonder we're in this mess. "




Joe from the lower 48 wrote on Aug 20, 2009 11:58 AM:

" Re: There are many other alternatives to the trillion-dollar Obamacare monster. "
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ROTFLMAO--Do you really think for a second any heath care CEO is going to forgo his $25-$50 million a year income because of tort reform or the "OTHER" measures to bring down cost? The only viable option to decrease cost is the public option-Period!! The killing off grandma nuts are thriving with delusion. "




watcher wrote on Aug 19, 2009 9:38 PM:

" I'll say it again: a government-controlled healthcare plan isn't an "improvement" to anything. You want real healthcare improvements, look at tort reform and other measures to bring down the cost while keeping incentives for quality. There are many other alternatives to the trillion-dollar Obamacare monster. "




Gimpy Desert Dog wrote on Aug 19, 2009 11:47 AM:

" Combine my Veteran benefits with other benefits so others may all have an entitlement??

Sorry I didn't see you in my gun truck in Iraq, I think I'll keep the benifits I have, perhaps enlisting is what you need Marti. "




TTOSBT wrote on Aug 19, 2009 11:30 AM:

" The lack of a reasoned discussion on the national need for health care reform is sad. The use of fear to keep things status quo is maddening. The misinformation and scare tactics used in shouting down reason and discussion at meetings is fear-mongering, plain and simple. This country is great not from fear, but by solving big issues with innovation and courage. We have a big, tough, sad, hard health care issue to fix. The 10 second ads and untrue information should not control the results. GET THE FACTS. BE FEARLESS ... ITS THE AMERICAN WAY. "




Power Wagon wrote on Aug 19, 2009 8:29 AM:

" Katie doesn't seem to have a good grasp of reality. Those that favor liberal policies believe that they are 'entitled' to as much of everybody else's money via government programs as possible. They believe they are 'owed' a piece of what others have earned. The "Me First" attitude a 'Reagan/Bush' attribute? Please! "




to Katie wrote on Aug 18, 2009 10:00 AM:

" The 'ME FIRST MINE-MINE-MINE' attitude started with Reagan and such?! HA HA HAAA! My oh my but you really don't know your history or socialogy AT ALL, do you? Or perhaps you're 17? You just described the '60s culture to a 'tee' which, my friend, has very very little to do with 'Reagan', Bush or the convervative side of society! You want a poster child for that screwed-up time in America? Look at the Clintons! "




Katie wrote on Aug 18, 2009 8:30 AM:

" The US Postal Service hasn't been govt run for a long time. Ask any postal worker. The current housing mess is because of the deliberate lack of oversight by the govt (at the behest of banks and Wall Street) and because a lot of greedy people wanted it all right now, never dreaming that someday they'd have to pay up. Don't blame the Obama govt for the rampant ME-FIRST-MINE-MINE-MINE attitude of far too many people in this country. That started with Reagan and was encouraged by Bush. "




REFORMER wrote on Aug 18, 2009 1:47 AM:

" Health Care Top CEOs earn about 11 million a year. One of the ways the insurance companies bump up their profits is to deny claims. They cherry pick only the healthy and cover no preexisting conditions. They are posing as grass root opposition, disrupting town hall meetings. Spending millions on adds that are pure lies. Like pulling the plug on Granny. And if all that isn't bad enough they have bought and paid for many of the Congressman and Senators. Health Care Reform is long over due. "




to teresa wrote on Aug 17, 2009 3:42 PM:

" Why is it a "this or that" issue? If our current system has it's problems, I (and many, many others) don't see the government proposal as the only solutions. If anything, it just exchanges one set of issues for another.

Tort reform and changes in regulation would go a long way to improving healthcare and associated costs in this country. Trillion-dollar spending and government oversight is most definitely not a solution for anything. "




Teresa wrote on Aug 17, 2009 11:31 AM:

" The public or government option is vital, and necessary, if there is to be meaningful healthcare reform.

Insurance companies have been making high profits, and have been subsidized. They are going to keep doing well regardless of what happens. For example, UPS is doing fine even though we have the U.S. Postal Service.

For too long, big insurance companies have been winning, but too many Americans have been losing out.

To keep what we have, or eliminate the government option, only benefits big insurance corporations while it hurts the people of America. "




Cliff from Ohio wrote on Aug 17, 2009 11:27 AM:

" Hey Joe, those of us who do not have children pay for those "clowns" that send children to school. "




jomama wrote on Aug 17, 2009 8:36 AM:

" go to the usw.org web site and see the article about palins comments.
gov palins health care rants.
it appears the steelworkers dont like her, say isnt her husband a steelworker? seems i remember they were parading him around as a member of the steelworkers until the international stepped in and made it clear they didnt support her. "




Joe from the lower 48 wrote on Aug 17, 2009 4:20 AM:

" Re: Wondering wrote "If you want health insurance, you have to pay for it, if not take your chances, just don't expect someone else to pay the bill. "
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Those of us with heath insurance already pay the freight for these clowns who go bare. My yearly premiums have built into them an additional cost of over $1500 per year that helps pay the cost associated with providing care to the weasels you mention. "




Economist wrote on Aug 16, 2009 10:42 AM:

" Why on earth would anyone want to give the government control over their healthcare? Look at the mess of the US Postal Service, look at the housing mess brought on by allowing Congress into the mix, yes I mean Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and others, look at the mess in the banking industry, and the automobile industry, this current administration is just fast forwarding the US into a Socialistic country, and if anyone has a backbone, they will stand up and say in a VERY Loud voice not only NO, but POSITIVELY NO!!! "




To Edward... wrote on Aug 16, 2009 7:44 AM:

" I guess you left out the Health and Human services department because it is broken? Seems to me it works as good as any other government department that you mentioned. You must be happy with the department of justice too, since you didn't mention anything about tort reform. "




Power Wagon wrote on Aug 15, 2009 11:56 PM:

" Ditch capitalism. Work hard and trust that the government will do it all for you; health care, education, housing, food etc etc. After all, that has worked so well for those countries that went that route.

OR...stick with this awful system wherein those of us that work pay for our insurance (and health care), while our taxes take care of those that don't , won't or can't work.

You want REAL healthcare reform? Start with tort reform. Kill ridiculous lawsuits and the costs for physicians to do thier job! "




Wondering wrote on Aug 15, 2009 7:43 PM:

" How many people in Alaska, who do not have health insurance, use their permanent fund for motorhomes, four wheelers, snowmachines, boats, etc.? There is a choice here, and everyone makes their choice, if they do not have health insurance, in most cases, they want someone else to pay for it, and I for one say NO! Health insurance is not mentioned in the Constitution, it is a choice, not a right! If you want health insurance, you have to pay for it, if not take your chances, just don't expect someone else to pay the bill. "




edwardfromaz wrote on Aug 15, 2009 2:39 PM:

" The only reason government doesn't work is because conservative Republican administrations defunded and/or patronage staffed them with people with ties to special business interests: to wit the last FDA, Dept of Interior and Agriculture under Bush. No one seems to have a problem with pumping over $500Bil to the Defense Department which last I hear is a socialized entity. "




edwardfrom wrote on Aug 15, 2009 2:38 PM:

" absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it's valuables thanks to the local police department.
I then log on to the internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right. "




Edwardfromaz wrote on Aug 15, 2009 2:38 PM:

" Reserve Bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.


After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my "




Edwardfromaz wrote on Aug 15, 2009 2:36 PM:

" I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the Food and Drug Administration.
At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental "




Edwardfromaz wrote on Aug 15, 2009 2:34 PM:

" Once again, for the benefit of the government-can't-get-anything-right flock:
This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. "




Katie wrote on Aug 15, 2009 11:17 AM:

" As long as the Republican Conservative movement keeps shouting "Socialism!" and "Death Panels" we will be stuck with the fact that those of us who can still afford health insurance will have to put up with substandard care because non-medical insurance bureaucrats will continue to make decisions about our medical needs - who we can see, for what reason, for how long, what meds we can receive (for what reason and for how long) and how long any hospitalization (if approved) may be for. People are dying now for lack of care. It will continue. "




To Jim wrote on Aug 14, 2009 5:07 PM:

" Careful Jim, you are about to blow your left wing liberal wacko gasket. Then you will need some kind of health care. How about us extremists conservatives pay a small tax so that the approximate 12 million legitimate Americans who don't have insurance, can't afford insurance, can't work to pay for insurance, but need insurance, can have free insurance. Those who choose to go without insurance and refuse to produce (work) are out of luck. Illegal aliens are out of luck too. Then would you be happy? "




Mark wrote on Aug 14, 2009 5:00 PM:

" One factor in our shortened life expectency is "instant" availability of treatment for those with great insurance! Doc's too often Immediately schedule surgery, prescibe meds & so expose patients to side effects. Many medical issues resolve, if given a few weeks!
The flip side of our current "throw $$$$" away system is that good people suffer & die just because they don't have insurance.
How can we justify either? Let us do the right thing! "




sharpie wrote on Aug 14, 2009 2:44 PM:

" "Government agencies work"??!! HA HA HA!!! WOW! You are indeed a bureacrat's dream if you believe that!

"The UK has a wonderful system", "Republicans don't have facts.."
You mean like the liberal's facts that "over-spending helps the economy" despite history proving that wrong EVERY time? You mean like the precise parts of Obama's healthcare proposal being recited wherein the government decides who gets and who doesn't get care, while he runs around denying it?

Oh my yes...liberals and facts go SO hand-in-hand! (Choke!) "




Jim from Boston wrote on Aug 14, 2009 12:56 PM:

" Dynahog, the Constitution doesn't have a provision for a standing military. Shall we disband the armed forces.

Where did you study Constitutional law? "




Jim from Boston wrote on Aug 14, 2009 12:52 PM:

" Larry, the Canadian system is overloaded because people have access to it.

Here you only overload expensive emergency rooms because the for profit insurance system denies access. It in effect rations, right? "




To Obamacare from Jim wrote on Aug 14, 2009 12:10 PM:

" Government agencies work. Whether they are sometimes slow, they work. We can count on them. They are trustworthy, at least as much or better than private companies.

I would rather have the choice of having something slow than to have no choice at all. If you want to keep your private insurance, and current doctor, no one is stopping you!

All big industrialized nations offer a government health care option to their citizens. You extremist Republicans can stick your presumptuous, arrogant, "leave the country" rhetoric in your ear. "




To Dynahog from Jim wrote on Aug 14, 2009 11:58 AM:

" You are so happy. You are so rich. You have such great insurance. Well, bully for you! Keep what you have. Nobody is stopping you!

Keep it, and let the rest of us have the overhaul of the health system that we need! Stay the heck out of my business, and my chance to have the health care I need!

Stop stepping on my opportunities, and my chances to have a decent style of living too. You aren't standing for your rights at all! You are an unwitting tool for the health insurance corporations. "




Jennifer wrote on Aug 14, 2009 11:47 AM:

" In the UK they have various wonderful services, benefits, and health care coverage.

I'm grateful, they are speaking out against the extremist right wing smears, distortions, and lies. No one is letting people die for lack of medical coverage but us!

Republicans can't argue facts, so they try to create chaos with threats, lies, and fairy tales. It does not deserve further dignification.

We have an important opportunity to provide needed health care to all Americans. That's what matters! So, let's do it! "




Power Wagon wrote on Aug 14, 2009 11:45 AM:

" Kelly: spoken like a true socialist. Reward the successful with larger taxes. Remove incentives to get a good education and work hard.

Jim: Those countries are 'happy' with thier healthcare system? Really? Is that why so many Canadians have to come here to get the care that thier system denies them because they're "too old" (or some other reason) to warrant the cost involved? "




Jim wrote on Aug 14, 2009 11:26 AM:

" The health care program is not yet a law. It is a proposal, and a draft. However, it is available to read for anyone with internet access, and the willingness to invest a few hours.

Health insurance for Americans has been in the works for 30 or 40 years now. France has it, Canada has it, the UK has it, and they are rightfully happy and proud to have health coverage for everyone.

We should have it too. This is the time, today. The proposed law is a good one for all Americans. "




Kelly wrote on Aug 14, 2009 10:56 AM:

" All we have to do is end the failed and unsound Bush policy of tax giveaways to those of us who make over $200,000 - $250,000 a year, and up.

Those are the people who can most afford to pay their fair share of taxes, but thanks to Bush no longer do. No President, including Ronald Reagan, gave such liberal and unjustified tax breaks.

Once we stop this unsound fiscal policy we have a hope of balancing the budget one day, and we will have money freed up to pay for health insurance for Americans. "




Dynahog wrote on Aug 14, 2009 9:40 AM:

" To Dynahog wrote on Aug 13, 2009 8:41 PM:

Get your facts straight. Americans on average have more money to spend, and some are hyper over their health care.

Move to France or Italy. We don't care. Check who collected what YOU call FACTS, and stay out of my business.

All that is not granted the Federal Government or State Governments is the Right of the People of America. FREEDOM of CHOICE.

There is no need or requirement to completely overhaul the American Healthcare System. I choose what I have. Back off! "




Power Wagon wrote on Aug 14, 2009 8:15 AM:

" There somebody goes again...quoting ridiculous stats from 'WHO'. When are you folks going to start doing your homework? 'WHO' is another UN group...just like the Human Rights Council (chaired by some great places like Libya, Syria, Saudi Arabia etc) that says countries like Cuba and China have the best human rights record but condemn the US for 'human rights abuses'.

By the way, the best country for medical care according to WHO? United Arab Emirates! Oh yeah, that's right where I want to go for great health care! "




AK1958 wrote on Aug 14, 2009 5:57 AM:

" Dynahog - All the hysteria is fed by Palin, Rush, Beck, OReilly and Fox News, I'd lay money down that Palin hasn't read the plan. Christians believe it's all in Gods hands anyway so what are they afraid of?

For those who make that contact about a underage girl pregnant and advising the parent/guardian of this are you not part of a "Death Panel"....that's how stupid this can get. When you make that call you may not make the decision but you started the process of life or death of a unborn. Is this truth or a lie? "




Larry Wood wrote on Aug 14, 2009 5:20 AM:

" U.S. ranks 37th? Relative to what?
I have been in Canada for 5 months now working. Every Canadian I have spoken to has had a relative, friend, or themselves who've come to the U.S. for health care, because the system is overloaded here.
Same for every country where socialized health care has been instituted.
Sounds good on paper, but doesn't work.
What to do to lower cost in the U.S.?
1. Eliminate the unfunded mandates for illegal alien health care.
2. Tort reform.
3. Reduce the paperworik for medicare/medicaid. "




Steve Charles wrote on Aug 13, 2009 10:02 PM:

" U.S. does have the best medical care but at a price.
Those who can afford it come here, those who can't
afford it travel outside.
We have rationing in our system now. It's rationing by one's ability to pay. What is more fair, 47 million uninsured (U.S.) or a short wait in non emergency care (36 other countries) for everybody.
Not providing universal care is a tragic reflection on Americans. "




To Dynahog wrote on Aug 13, 2009 8:41 PM:

" Get your facts straight, the US spends more per person on health care than any other country, yet in overall quality its care ranks 37th in the world, says a World Health Organization analysis. It concluded that France provides the globe's best health care and Italy ranked No. 2.
We can do better and everyone can be covered with quality health care.
Where there is a political will, there is a way and the American people deserve a government that will work to that end. "




jp wrote on Aug 13, 2009 8:31 PM:

" health reform must start at the point of the medical professionals, they double bill medicaid, insurance companies, and patients. They charge for services not rendered as well. I personally have caught this, and turned it back to my insurance company, and brought it back up to my medical provider, and they played dumb, and said that they would "take care of it" and nothing ever got refunded.
That's what is truly wrong with health care, lack of honesty and integrity. "




OBAMACARE wrote on Aug 13, 2009 8:00 PM:

" There is always room for improvement in any health care system. But if you think nationalizing the health care system is the answer, perhaps you should just move to Canada where you can stand in line now for free health care. Read some paragraphs in the stupid health care bill and then tell us if you want to trust your body to the government bureaucrats or for that matter government doctors. Just imagine any department of motor vehicle office converted to a government health care office and you get the picture. Take a number... "




Dynahog wrote on Aug 13, 2009 7:54 PM:

" The U.S. is the richest nation in the world and has the least concern for the health of its citizens. Say what?

Judging from the yelling and screaming by Democrats attending Townhalls with their elected Reps, Senators and Obama, 'least concern' is OFF THE MARK.

1. First the Feds should track Medicare/Medicaid spending on reimbursements down to verification of beneficiaries to STOP FRAUD.

2. Second add incentives for affordable barebones healthcare insurance. BUT it is The People's Choice, not the Government's Choice.

Nothing in the U.S. Constitution gave the Fed or State Government healthcare. "




Non profit health insurance wrote on Aug 13, 2009 7:51 PM:

" We have the world's best health care services but not everyone can access them. We've been priced out of paying directly for many servicesa or cannot afford or have been denied health care insurance . Government has a roll to play in ensuring it's citizens have access to quality affordable health care. Going through for profit insurance companies has just become too expensive for many who don't qualifiy for low income, aged or disabled health care programs. Accept there is a problem and work together to solve it. Enough with the hysterical drama. "




Dynahog wrote on Aug 13, 2009 7:44 PM:

" I hear the Brits are objecting to our interpretation of their National Healthcare System. I suppose it was a Brit employed by it.

The British National Healthcare system employees 1/3rd of Great Britain's employables.

1/3rd folks. Administrators and Office clerks to tend to 2/3rds of their Population.

I suppose the Royals have Gold-Plated Rolls Royce versions of Healthcare. "




Dynahog wrote on Aug 13, 2009 7:41 PM:

" Everyone is different. Some die young, some die old. I have a couple aunts and uncles near 90 years old.

I figure I have the best Medicare Advantage insurance TODAY. TOTALLY IN DARK ABOUT 2010 "if" HR3200 were to pass.

Today heart surgery (stents to clear arteries) costs est. $250,000. My bill would be $25 for Emergency Service plus Drug costs to recover from surgery (est. $300). Ain't so bad. Don't hurt my wallet!

With HR3200, they'd assess whether I was worth saving. De Facto "Death Panel" because I don't eat the $250,000 bill. "




Dynahog wrote on Aug 13, 2009 6:51 PM:

" The U.S. has the best Healthcare in the World. Thumbs Up. NO DOUBT. All the hysteria is fed by Obama and Liberals paid by Union bosses to pass tough Federal Pro-Union laws to close any company if Unions strike. It won't stop there.

"Death Panel" / Sarah Palin
HR3200 doesn't say "Death Panel". But mandates end-of-life talk to the insured over age 65 every 5 years. HR3200 has time released mandates passed to States on Medicaid etc. Then there will be "death panels" like those in Oregon where they have a "limited Euthansia State"; and other States. "