Skull discovery halts work at Knik

BY ANDREW WELLNER
Frontiersman
Published on Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:21 PM AKDT

KNIK — Work to build a foundation for a historical warehouse in Knik has been halted after a skull was found in the dirt being removed.

Fran Seager-Boss, cultural resource specialist for the Mat-Su Borough, said the skull was found two weeks ago and that since then no work has been done at the site. The project was to build a foundation on which to set a warehouse O.G. Herning built in 1917 that was moved to the area from Wasilla.

“We’re all just sort of suspended right now,” she said. “As soon as any skeletal remains were recovered from this operation we ceased immediately.”

Who the skull belonged to, when he or she died, whether he or she was white or Native, is yet to be determined. Seager-Boss said the State Medical Examiner’s Office is conducting an investigation to find those answers.

The area where the skull was found is near the Knik Museum. It’s an area rich in history with multiple buried Native townsites. The museum itself is the last remaining piece of the old Knik Townsite.

Since the area has multiple former settlements, members of the Knik Tribal Council had been watching the digging. They wanted to make sure just this sort of thing didn’t happen.

“That’s the worst possible thing to have happen because that’s somebody’s soul,” said Debra Call, president of the Knik Tribal Council.    

It’s a battle the tribe has fought before, Call said. Nobody consulted them when Knik-Goose Bay Road was put almost directly through the townsite. The tribe had to fight to install fencing around a graveyard the Iditarod Trail runs through.

Alfred Theodore, one of the tribal council’s elders, lives across the street from the site. He said that one of the reasons his father worked to get the land for the tribe was its remoteness.

“We didn’t want someone to dig us up and move us,” he said. “Things like this make me feel bad... We respect our dead.”

This go-round, Call said, all due care was taken to make sure no bodies were disturbed. She noted that prior to the dig a team came out with ground-penetrating radar to look for burial sites. Some burial sites were found, but not where the skull was eventually unearthed.

“The skull has the same shape and reads the same as a rock,” she said. “They were looking for coffin shapes.”

Only after the site was surveyed with the radar, she said, was a decision made to move ahead. She said it seemed reasonable to dig there because the Dena’ina wouldn’t have put a burial ground on such swampy land.

“I didn’t have any reason to believe there was anything there,” she said.

Another issue — this might not be the first time the skull was moved. The area where they were digging, Seager-Boss said, had a layer of fill on top of the original ground. The fill came from another construction project.

“We couldn’t tell whether it came from the fill or whether it came from the subsurface,” she said.

   

Contact Andrew Wellner at andrew.wellner@frontiersman.com or 352-2270.

Comments

43 comment(s)

    nancy wrote on Sep 19, 2009 11:10 PM:

    " Saturday Sept. 19 they found the rest of the body. This time they left the bones in the hole. Please make them stop. "

    nancy wrote on Sep 13, 2009 4:02 PM:

    " Who matters? Hope you had your flu shot Mat-Su:) "

    Mat-Su wrote on Sep 13, 2009 2:10 AM:

    " N a n c y

    Get a grip...NO ONE who matters CARES

    Quit trying to be a hero to nobody, MYOB, and take care of Houstons messes, there are plenty of those to go around. Such a busybody about nothing. sheesh "

    nancy wrote on Sep 12, 2009 6:07 PM:

    " Then give your historic preservation committee back to the chief and the elders that know the history. KABATA money for the EIS for instance?The Tribal Historic Preservation committee sure sounds like someone was trying. But only one grave was listed in Frans document produced for KABATA. Was that your grandma or your mom? There are many more than that; Have you done a "knik grave" search yet?? There should be plenty of evidence to stop the borough from proceeding with the cemetery desecration. But if you give them permission to continue, then they think no one cares! "

    Debra Call wrote on Sep 12, 2009 3:39 PM:

    " Nancy - it would have been gracious of you to research who the Council officers on our internet site and give me or any council these documents via mail or in person before this ever happened. If you really cared about us or the graves-- this would have been the respectable thing to do for all involved. Our office computers are to be used to provide housing, education and health services to Native elders and children in need. "

    nancy wrote on Sep 12, 2009 8:50 AM:

    " Maybe before you sign away anymore graves you could google it or bing it or yahoo it.....(do an internet search) this information has been online since 2000. Tim Andersons letter recognizing the graves behind the knik hall has also been online since 03. Dont you have computers yet at the tribe? Debra the borough lied to you and Raymond, MAKE THEM PAY! I hand delivered these documents serveral times. and online at matsucemeteries.tripod.com knik.org "

    Debra Call wrote on Sep 12, 2009 4:03 AM:

    " I have served as President of the Knik Tribe for about two years. I have NEVER been given any paperwork about graves via certified mail or in person by Nancy Sult. I challenge her or anyone else to prove otherwise. We are a tribe with a small staff to provide housing, health, education services to 5,000 Alaska Natives in the Mat-su area. We do not have funding or staff to do archaeology work. My grandmother and mother are buried in Knik. Where were all of you when Joe Reddington insisted on the Iditarod trail in the graveyard? "

    nancy wrote on Sep 11, 2009 9:08 AM:

    " Maybe someone will want to use the ground where Dorothy Page and Joe Redington are buried. I think a nice quick stop store might be a better use of Aurora cemetery. Maybe reusing the unmarked graves in Palmer Cemetery might be profitable to the Cemetery Association there. Laws are laws its illegal to move graves with out a permit. It requires disinterment permits. And next time your down there pick up the rest of the bones you left laying around. You have spanish flu layin all over the site. "

    Mat-Su wrote on Sep 10, 2009 10:17 PM:

    " Granny, Nancy, whine us all a river, it's just some OLD,OLD graves that no one cares about, why you do is beyond anyones imagination. Just progress stoppers I think. Collect what you can, and build a monument on something YOU OWN, Put everyones name you can make up on it if it makes you feel better. The dead don't care, the owners of the property are moving forward, you are the only ones stuck in the past..Move ahead, it's almost 2010, time to put your thick skin on for the winter. "

    grandma wrote on Sep 10, 2009 9:39 PM:

    " Maybe lineal tribal members should take control of the tribal council. If there was a vote to dig up the cemetery then you are all to blame. If there was no vote and Ms Call did this on her own.Then there should be a vote to consider who should be in charge of this tribal entity. Maybe your culture allows such things for the right price. The tribe was lied to. Graves could not have been seen through the large amount of fill DOT put on the cemetery many years ago. "

    Nancy wrote on Sep 10, 2009 8:44 PM:

    " matsucemeteries.tripod.com "

    nancy wrote on Sep 10, 2009 8:42 PM:

    " To Guest
    Yes many many times to all of them. At the State historical Preservation commission, OHA, Borough Planning commission, Borough historical preservation commission, Borough assembly, Knik Tribal council, Knikatnu inc. Allice and Bailey Theodore are founding members of the tribe. Alice told them first! Its been in the daily news frontiersman twice. Google the herning warehouse knik alaska. Money taliks louder than logic. We told them all and they found the graves. Good luck to all of you involved. We even showed them pictures of the marked graves in the 40s. they dont care..........................anywhere else its called graverobbing. "

    Guest wrote on Sep 9, 2009 3:14 PM:

    " Question for Friends of Old Knik (Nancy), did you ever really present any of the documentation you claim to have to the borough, to the Knik Tribal Council, to the Historic Society? I know for a fact that if you had, no digging would have occurred because the Knik Tribal Council would have said no. No one wants to dig up graves of anyone's ancestors yet you think everyone in this world is out to do just that. Please start working with the governments (Borough and Knik Tribal) instead of against them. "

    grandma wrote on Sep 6, 2009 12:24 PM:

    " I'm a old german woman from minnesota. We dont do this in our cemeteries. Tests did prove this soul to be native but I would do the same for a german miner. and I do. Cyrus Hunter, Frank Churchill, Frank Mcguire, DC Wisner, Horace W. Nagley, George Purches, all have flowers and crosses too. Are they next? Not as long as I can stand in front of the Diggers and i will. The truth will come out. They broke state, federal, law, local law and moral law. Be careful where you bury your family in this valley........ "

    Knik wrote on Sep 5, 2009 10:47 AM:

    " Yawn...I suppose you have DNA results
    already? Some poor old miner from Germany probably.... And Native or not, just another American, We are all the same-o same-o.
    Listen close. Do something good for your "heritage" If you believe them or any others anywhere, to be of any value to you or the community, collect them, and build a memorial on YOUR OWN LAND. You sound like a whiney old woman who thinks she is somehow "special"
    DO-IT...DO-IT NOW "

    grandma wrote on Sep 5, 2009 7:25 AM:

    " It was, is and always will be a cemetery. they knew it and they dug it up to build a basement under a 80 year old bat guano infested old building. In Alaska this is a felony. You sound like your hoping it was planted.....guilty of something ?? The bones are native so there will be more than one criminal case here. They all knew ........ "

    grandma wrote on Sep 4, 2009 10:14 PM:

    " It was, is and always will be a cemetery. they knew it and they dug it up to build a basement under a 80 year old bat guano infested old building. In Alaska this is a felony. You sound like your hoping it was planted.....guilty of something ?? The bones are native so there will be more than one criminal case here. They all knew ........ "

    Knik wrote on Sep 3, 2009 10:29 PM:

    " You have GOT to get out of the past, This is 2009, If you want to get the remains and make a monument on your own land...DO IT, But to stop deveopment because of something you think may have happened, just because your name matches someone from long ago is silly. If anyone really cared up till now, they would have moved ole Henry or whoever to a proper place long ago. Little late now to be planting bones and hoping for the best. Take responsibilty, collect the remians, and care for them. "

    Star Theodore wrote on Sep 3, 2009 10:52 AM:

    " Just to "Knik"
    These graves were marked, with spirit houses, and then destroyed, and then covered with fill. Don't even go there that no one cares. We have been fighting a long time for the graves in Knik to be left alone. The "historical society cares more about old buildings than they do about history, human rights, and the well being of the community. This persons bones that was dug up more than likely passed away in 1918 from the pandemic spanish flu. I am a Theodore and I have been fighting. DO NOT DIG in Knik. "

    grandma wrote on Sep 3, 2009 7:00 AM:

    " Knik and Wasilla guy must have had a really hard lonely life. Someday you will care enough about someone to want to visit them even after they die. Cemeteries give us that chance. There is plenty of land for development. This was and is a marked cemetery. These two are why we have laws to prevent grave desecration. google it ! anyone could have found out that there was a cemetery there. "

    Knik wrote on Sep 2, 2009 11:03 PM:

    " Grandma...who cares, none are marked, no names, just because someone was buried years ago doesn't mean you don't touch the ground ever, just move the old miner, or old colonist, or old indian, it doesn't matter how many are there, no one really knows whos who. Just put them all in that boat out in the Knik flats, and let nature take its course. Really, they won't mind...THEY ARE DEAD "

    Wasillaguy wrote on Sep 2, 2009 9:57 PM:

    " You know, this seems quite ridiculous to me. We die, some of us get buried, all of us will eventually be forgotten. If we constantly have to worry about building on top of "gravesites" and such, the world will quickly run out of space. Either start putting graves in the ocean or get over it... or even like it has been stated before: quit breeding. "

    Grandma wrote on Sep 2, 2009 10:17 AM:

    " Pre colonial? Maybe pre russian Contact. There are many russian orthodox cemeteries in our state because they convinced the natives not to burn their dead. Now whose job is it to protect them. Good job Friends of Old Knik mark the grave and dont let them lie about it. Alice Theodore says there are 40 graves there that means there are 40 graves there. "

    Knik wrote on Aug 31, 2009 10:10 PM:

    " Born here over 55 years ago...No where to go to ?Dixie? It's just an old skull or bone, possibly of an old miner or who knows who, not enough to stop progress, this is whats wrong with this country, too many bleeding hearts about nothing. Take it and any other bones you find and go put them in that boat out at Knik flats, make a monument you can bow to daily,,,sheesh, you's think it was your own granny. Just a planted bone. Get a life, all of you. "

    Guest wrote on Aug 31, 2009 3:24 PM:

    " If you look at any of the maps from the early 1900's, there is a swamp marked where the excavation is taking place. Do you really believe that the Dena'ina would bury their dead in a swamp? No culture in the world would treat their dead this way. The skull was either planted or it came with the fill for KGB. People need to remember that there was major disturbance when KGB came through the town so everything was messed up then. "

    Guest wrote on Aug 31, 2009 2:29 PM:

    " The area was totally destroyed and the fill moved when the Knik/Goose Bay road was put in. Everything was demolished. No one who has moved to the area recently knows the descretation that has already gone on. Who supported Knik Tribe when the Iditarod Trail was going to go through the tribal graveyard?? No one! Anything that was originally there, has long been moved in the 60's with the construction of the road. YES -- it should have been named the historic area then. "

    Long Time Alaskan wrote on Aug 31, 2009 1:42 PM:

    " Pre-colonial contact, the Dena'ina cremated their dead. No real grave markers were ever there. I think the skull was planted by a crazy zealot who needs mental health treatment - the question is, where did it come from? "

    Coleen wrote on Aug 31, 2009 12:55 PM:

    " I totally agree with Loriann Rawson...coffins?? The person who made that statement/decision needs to go back to school. "

    Alaskanwoodlandfaerie wrote on Aug 31, 2009 12:35 PM:

    " I have personally helped mar some of theese graves in knikt. Sounds to me like the knik historical society needs to do there JOB! people say the graves werent marked! Well a wooden cross would let me know.. theese people removed theese crosses and dug! I think they also should be charged with a felony ...Just because theres no coffin doesnt mean theres no grave... friends of old knik has put lots of time into preserving theese gravesites...and they claim they didnt know thats a lie! do your research!!!! Have some respect for the dead "

    George wrote on Aug 31, 2009 12:12 PM:

    " If you all are against progress then STOP BREEDING! "

    Alaskan wrote on Aug 31, 2009 9:58 AM:

    " Knik - move back to Dixie "

    Lorianne Rawson wrote on Aug 31, 2009 9:56 AM:

    " Looking for coffins? Coffins are fairly recent compared to the thousands of years of the Dena'ina. Perhaps the Matsu Borough should hire someone else who has more extensive experience as a cultural specialist. Ignorance contributes to the loss and respect of history. These actions and those previously clearly demonstrate total disregard for the indigenous people. "

    nancy wrote on Aug 31, 2009 6:44 AM:

    " AS 11.46.482. Criminal Mischief in the Third Degree.
    a class c felony to take the markers off of a grave. they have done it many many times thi summer. they didnt want potential excavators to be aware that there were graves. Vern Rupright should demand the return of the Herning Warehouse. Orville Herning would not want that bat infested building used as a tool to dig up his friends buried there. Maybe ill take Tim Andersons advice and Mark THEM ALL.......Knik would be lookin alot different. and you all couldn't live in denial that these important parts of history "

    oldschool wrote on Aug 30, 2009 10:14 PM:

    " Hey Knik... Why don't you look at a map of Alaska and see, the 480,000 sq miles of Alaska that is prime for progress, and yet, isn't cemetary plots. Or better yet since they are just bones why don't you donate your property for the cemetary. Is that all you have inside you is just bones? Guess no brains. This are is used to respect the dead for those whom are still there. And we the living are still repsecting it. "

    nancy wrote on Aug 30, 2009 8:31 PM:

    " I have personally marked these graves for years. this summer I marked the cemetery and every time the markers were removed. I have presented and begged the borough not to allow digging and they promised not to in 2003. Thank you Tim Anderson for trying to fix the problems with the borough and cemeteries. New borough rules only apply to others not themselves. I guess its not against the law if the Matsu Borough does it. They knew the graves were there ......maybe you should ask at the knik museum how many of my crosses she has.................. "

    friends of old knik wrote on Aug 30, 2009 6:43 PM:

    " They all knew what they would find. Alice Theodore documented the cemetery in the 80's. I have personally presented the documents that prove this is was and will always be sacred ground. the rest of the disturbed bones should have been collected. Not left. Grave Crosses should not have been removed. Talis Colberg could have listened to the elders that came to his office to ask him not to do this. Thank-you to Tim Anderson for believing me. He directed a fence be installed and that no digging occur behind the Knik Museum............please let them be reburied. "

    Knik wrote on Aug 30, 2009 2:05 PM:

    " If there were any grave sites that ANY relatives REALLY gave a darn about, they would have been taken care of and marked, and headstones, and flowers on a weekly basis. No one cares until "ooooo" progress starts moving in, then it's OH yeah I remember ole Henry was buried up there, or, Aunt Alice was somewhere around there. If any of you bleeding hearts would have cared, it would of been a Marked tourist attraction YEARS ago, Dig, Let progress continue,, if you find anything, give it to someone who cares. "

    Becky wrote on Aug 30, 2009 9:42 AM:

    " I am with the Friends of Old Knik and their plite to SAVE Old Knik. It is worth it. My son is good friends with the Theodore family across from the Knik Museum, and their family is RICH in history and culture. I would HATE to see the remains of their ancestors moved and placed somewhere else. The balance of this area would go on a worse tilt than what is going on now. The gravel pit needs to be stopped, also. Totally stopped...
    I am done ranting. "

    Becky wrote on Aug 30, 2009 9:38 AM:

    " I have lived in the Knik area for almost 20 years, and have grown to LOVE the history this area has. It apawls me to no end as to how "progress" is taking place of the history the children need to learn first hand and hands on. I have witnessed the actual Old Knik Townsite going down to a massive gravel pit on the inlet side of the KGB RD, and there ARE graves in there. I have seen them. The buried folks in there are UPSET as to what is happening. It needs to STOP where it is andgonofurther! "

    friends of old knik wrote on Aug 30, 2009 8:35 AM:

    " They all knew what they would find. Alice Theodore documented the cemetery in the 80's. I have personally presented the documents that prove this is was and will always be sacred ground. the rest of the disturbed bones should have been collected. Not left. Grave Crosses should not have been removed. Talis Colberg could have listened to the elders that came to his office to ask him not to do this. Thank-you to Tim Anderson for believing me. He directed a fence be installed and that no digging occur behind the Knik Museum............please let them be reburied. "

    guest wrote on Aug 30, 2009 8:14 AM:

    " Nothing is certain at this point, and no person should be too upset if this is a former settler. They took as many precautions as they could. On the other hand if this may have been a missing person, this is a good thing to find "

    Coleen Mielke wrote on Aug 30, 2009 1:37 AM:

    " I would like to see the entire Old Knik townsite designated as a no dig zone. According to Orville Herning's diaries, there are graves spread out over that entire area. Obviously, ground-penetrating radar is not the answer and this is going to happen again and again. Mr. Herning would roll in his grave if he knew this kind of desecration was happening. "

    Knik wrote on Aug 29, 2009 11:46 PM:

    " No one cares about no-name remains, they are everywhere, Just get the job done and rebury what you find, no one would know the difference anyway. Probably some ole white prospector from Maine .WHO CARES, Its a bone. "

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